Valvoline WB now a syn-blend in 5/20 & 5/30

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I just noticed that Valvoline's PDS sheets state that VWB is a syn-blend in their 5w-20 and 5w-30 weights. Is this a new development? The sheet has an effective date of 1-3-17 so I thought it may have just happened. The other weights 10w-30, 10w-40 and 20w-50 have their own sheet and are not stated as being a blend.
The two blends don't carry DEXOS approvals so I'm wondering what's up? Does this signal a phasing out of DuraBlend?
 
For many years now, 5-20s in most-all labels were / are blends. But the synblend labels in 5w-20 (for instance Durablend) I'm guessing contains additional amounts / percentages of synthetic.
Now that 5w-30 has incorporated synthetic, I suppose Durablend 5w-30 can still coexist on store shelves, having more synthetic inside that jug than the white bottle Valv. 5w-30.

I wish there was regulations / legislations where the bottlers had to make-public the amount of synthetic in every synthetic blend bottle. In the meantime, it just makes sense that the amount of synthetic in Durablend 5w-30 will be greater than the new white bottle Valvoline in 5w-30.

These companies are adding synthetic to conventional oils to meet specifications / controls / ratings/. The specs are probably getting tougher to meet. So now 5w-30 will contain varying amounts of synthetic, depending on the bottler label / brand.

Goes to show that oils of today are better than yesterday's. That's good news for our vehicles.
 
I just used VWB 5W30 in the LR3 like 10 days ago, I'll check the receipt for the date, but I wonder if it was a blend. The packaging didn't look any different.
 
It's probably been syn-blend for a while but for marketing reasons they aren't focusing on the former mid-level syn-blend (durablend, or whatever). Shelves are getting a little crowded to have Conventional/Conv-HM/Blend/Blend-HM/Full-syn.

Look at AZ getting rid of durablend for an example. Not on the plan-o-gram.
 
I can't find and haven't been able to find durablend for a long long time.

My guess is that most all conventional oils have some syn in them to meet GF5/SN..it will surly increase with GF6 in 2018. Keep in mind we consider group III oils syns in the US
 
I have used Valvoline in the past and currently have it in our Dart but one thing that gets me down about Valvoline is the whole product line always has low TBN values compared to other premium oils.
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Originally Posted By: dpaldino
I just noticed that Valvoline's PDS sheets state that VWB is a syn-blend in their 5w-20 and 5w-30 weights. Is this a new development? The sheet has an effective date of 1-3-17 so I thought it may have just happened. The other weights 10w-30, 10w-40 and 20w-50 have their own sheet and are not stated as being a blend.
The two blends don't carry DEXOS approvals so I'm wondering what's up? Does this signal a phasing out of DuraBlend?
Good catch-& that Ford spec WSS-M2C946-A is the 5W20 spec for the '15 Transit 25 3.7 in my sig-looks like it'll be VWB in it from now on (instead of the Maxlife 5W20 it's been getting), that'll save the company a few $.
 
Quaker State Enhanced Durability (syn blend) atates in it's specs to be 50% synthetic . Not sure about the others ...
 
I agree they seem to have a lower starting TBN...and correct me if I'm wrong but i assume that different add packs with have varying TBN retention rates. Syntech always seems to hold up well
 
I think a lot of Group 2 mineral oils add a dash of Group 3 synthetic to help them pass the API SN quality tests. They are beginning to state this more clearly now, Castrol GTX UltraClean states it now contains some synthetic oil. In Australia we get Valvoline "EngineArmour" which sits below DuraBlend, when I range Valvoline up they said it was a blend but with less synthetic in it. These are their base level products (but still high quality).

The next level up, the traditional semi-synthetics like DuraBlend and Magnatec, should (I hope) contain more synthetic and pass more specs like Dexos. But even this level is becoming confusing, as some of the Magnatec range is now full synthetic (probably Group 3).

The "Full-Synthetics" are the Premium products, probably contain even better base oils like GTL or some PAO in the mix, plus a higher quality add pack.

As time goes on I suspect the three traditional classes of oil (conventional, synblend, synthetic) to be replaced by three product grades (base. middle, high) with their own corporate names (eg GTX, Magnatec, Edge). How they are put together will vary with the specs of the day.
 
Triple_Se7en said:
For many years now, 5-20s in most-all labels were / are blends. But the synblend labels in 5w-20 (for instance Durablend) I'm guessing contains additional amounts / percentages of synthetic.
Now that 5w-30 has incorporated synthetic, I suppose Durablend 5w-30 can still coexist on store shelves, having more synthetic inside that jug than the white bottle Valv. 5w-30.

I wish there was regulations / legislations where the bottlers had to make-public the amount of synthetic in every synthetic blend bottle. In the meantime, it just makes sense that the amount of synthetic in Durablend 5w-30 will be greater than the new white bottle Valvoline in 5w-30.

These companies are adding synthetic to conventional oils to meet specifications / controls / ratings/. The specs are probably getting tougher to meet. So now 5w-30 will contain varying amounts of synthetic, depending on the bottler label / brand.

You hit the nail on the head Triple_Se7en! When I posted here, I also emailed Valvoline and they answered immediately which is impressive in its own right. They said that in order to achieve a 5W weight, it is almost a requirement to have some synthetic properties. The other reason is that more and more auto manufacturers are stating in the owner's manual that a synblend oil should be used so now the consumer can feel comfortable using VWB. He did also say that VWB has nowhere near the percentage of synthetic that MaxLife has which is slightly more than 30%. He also confirmed that WB does not have enough to allow for dexos certification.
 
I also contacted Valvoline - they advised "all percentages (syn vs blend vs convl) are trade secrets and proprietary information." Not unexpected.
 
Pretty sure all conventional oils are blends these days, it's probably cheaper for them to manufacture them that way as is. Must be something good in them because they are definitely holding up better and lasting longer than they did in the past. I grew up in a time when nobody dared run more than 3k on an oil change because your oil was thrashed by then, but oil quality is much improved now than it was 30 years ago.
 
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