Valvoline Restore & Protect 5w-30 (Gonna Take a Chance)

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Nope, the difference between a 40 grade and 30 grade at operating temps is very minor, especially when compared to the difference in viscosity between a cold 20 grade and an operating-temp 20 grade. Your engine won’t even notice; the manufacturer makes all recommendations in the US based off of CAFE credits, not engine longevity. 👍🏻
And even moreso, there is no API grade that would be "too" thick as long as the winter rating is appropriate for the starting temperatures. You may not need a 50-grade in terms of film thickness but it's not going to harm the engine.
 
Nope, the difference between a 40 grade and 30 grade at operating temps is very minor, especially when compared to the difference in viscosity between a cold 20 grade and an operating-temp 20 grade. Your engine won’t even notice; the manufacturer makes all recommendations in the US based off of CAFE credits, not engine longevity. 👍🏻
That makes sense, but what about during the warmup phase? The 40 grade is quite a bit thicker than 20 grade when cold, correct?
 
Snake oil comes in different flavors.
What makes you say that? Just curious. I've seen a lot of marketing claims over the years. This could very well be just that.

I'd like to know more about this test - modified IIIH. 1a to 4b I'm assuming was the result of the test. I'd like to know the interval they used and what is this new proprietary additive they're using.

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What makes you say that? Just curious. I've seen a lot of marketing claims over the years. This could very well be just that.

I'd like to know more about this test - modified IIIH. 1a to 4b I'm assuming was the result of the test. I'd like to know the interval they used and what is this new proprietary additive they're using.

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Buster, can you provide that specific link with the pic in it? Those are at least 3 different types of pistons (top left 2, top right 2, and all 4 on the bottom appear to be different sets), so I’d like to read the wording attached to those claims. Thanks!
 
Buster, can you provide that specific link with the pic in it? Those are at least 3 different types of pistons (top left 2, top right 2, and all 4 on the bottom appear to be different sets), so I’d like to read the wording attached to those claims. Thanks!

I see some ridges on the lower ones but not the top. They look different. :unsure:

 
From my understanding, valvoline is really good too. And while it's relatively new, it has 21k miles and there's bound to be some carbon deposits, etc. My thought is to run it to "restore" (if they really do as claimed. And run it a cycle or two and do a UOA. Also, with their deal, I got 15qt for $63 and free shipping. That's $21 per jug. I don't mind paying for premium oil but that's pretty good considering it's also a high quality oil.
You don't really have anything to restore yet. Ask again in 300,000 miles
 
What makes you say that? Just curious. I've seen a lot of marketing claims over the years. This could very well be just that.

I'd like to know more about this test - modified IIIH. 1a to 4b I'm assuming was the result of the test. I'd like to know the interval they used and what is this new proprietary additive they're using.

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You can find documentation for that test via google search.
https://www.astmtmc.org/ftp/docs/ga..._ils/IIIH/Archive/Seq IIIH_Oct 3 2016 (2).pdf

As far as I understand the test would be looking at a clean new piston and evaluating any additional deposits.
The fact that its modified means it started from a piston that already had deposits.
 
I don’t mean to sound cynical, it’s motor oil in a new flavor. My guess is that this it for those that have issues with newer motors with sticky piston rings. This jogs my memory back to when I heard radio ads for motor honey or friction proofing. At first I’m thinking this is for neglected motors or with newer DI motors where this is common, it’s not our fault. So far my Mazda is not having this problem. Actually I thought that changes made to SP were take care of this. Maybe I’m naive?
 
Thank you so much for the encouraging remarks! It really means a lot to me because 1) I don't hear that often, actually hardly ever. Mostly the attitude is the opposite. 2) I really do believe I have given it such a valiant effort. I liked how you worded that.

Honestly, deep down, I know you are right and it's time to cut my losses. But used car prices are so high, and it's almost paid off. It's fuel efficient and has a lot of sentimental value to me. It's the car I took my girlfriend, who would become my wife, on many dates. It the car that we brought our son home from the hospital in. It safely and reliably took us on many road trips across the country, including last year, from Fort Worth, TX to upstate NY.

It's for those reasons mainly, as well as the fact that this has basically become my past time and hobby, that I just can't do it. I don't want to see the car go. And maybe I'm in denial, perhaps im delusional, but I firmly believe it won't self destruct if I keep doing what I'm doing. It's actually become more than a hobby, its become a a goal or a mission of mine. No sooner than I would put my 13 year old Pug down, or hypothetically, pull the plug on a family member. Crazy as it sounds, the car just means that much to me.

I am going to consider using that euro oil you mentioned, because I'm a huge fan of Quaker State (underrated king in my book). And I would be curious to see if that will actually help with the oil consumption. Not that I don't believe you that it could, just that no two cases of oil consumption seems to be the same.

Question though, isn't 5W40 too thick for the 2.4L? The Manual states up to 5W30, original spec calls for 5W20.

You have just been convinced of something you should NOT do.

The Valvoline R&P 5w-30 will be fine in your engine. You've already invested in it, wanted to try it, now CONTINUE to use it and see what results you get. If you next switch to QS 5w-40 you won't know anything.
 
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You have just been convinced of something you should NOT do.

The Valvoline R&P 5w-30 will be fine in your engine. You've already invested in it, wanted to try it, now CONTINUE to use it and see what results you get. If you next switch to QS 5w-40 you won't know anything.
Where did anyone tell him NOT to use the R&P he’s already poured in? They haven’t. If you actually read the detail, his car is burning a quart every thousand miles, which means the R&P will be gone from his sump before his next OCI in 4k.
 
Where did anyone tell him NOT to use the R&P he’s already poured in? They haven’t. If you actually read the detail, his car is burning a quart every thousand miles, which means the R&P will be gone from his sump before his next OCI in 4k.
I read the details. He should continue using R&P and making sure it's full WITH R&P only, no additives.
 
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