Valvoline Restore and Protect

If you coast down a long hill with the throttle completely closed, and then you stomp on it pretty hard do you see any blue smoke cloud out of the exhaust? If so, it's probably getting lots of oil through the valve stem seals. If you have been cruising at steady throttle for say a couple of miles, then nail it hard full throttle do you see any smoke? If it smokes in that case, it could be oil control rings. If valve guides are really bad, it may smoke some in both cases. Around that 1 quart per 1000 miles is quite a bit of oil consumption.

On that engine, it would probably be pretty easy to replace the valve guide seals. Just need some nylon rope in the cylinder at TDC to keep the valve in place and a valve spring compressor that will work with the heads on.
Haven’t tried that but I’ve never saw any blue smoke out tailpipe. When I’m better off I’ll try to investigate more.
 
One thing that this oil has done, is challenge the idea, present on BITOG, that an oil with cleaning properties will produce higher wear metals in UOA as it cleans. This seems not to be true at all with RP. But some expensive and fanboi’ed oils on here have often produced rather poor looking results, which was explained away as “cleaning “. I wonder if anyone will square this new phenomenon with their previous explanations.
 
One thing that this oil has done, is challenge the idea, present on BITOG, that an oil with cleaning properties will produce higher wear metals in UOA as it cleans. This seems not to be true at all with RP. But some expensive and fanboi’ed oils on here have often produced rather poor looking results, which was explained away as “cleaning “. I wonder if anyone will square this new phenomenon with their previous explanations.
Yup and it can’t and won’t fix bad engine designs. It’s all marketing and what makes people warm and fuzzy
 
Yup and it can’t and won’t fix bad engine designs. It’s all marketing and what makes people warm and fuzzy
It does what it's marketed to do, which is to clean deposits and then keep the engine clean. Works for many people that have engines that burn oil from stuck rings, which was the main goal of Valvoline when they developed the Valvoline Restore and Protect oil.
 
Running a full synthetic oil for less than 5K miles is kind a wasteful. Also, in this case you don't give the Valvoline Restore and Protect oil enough time to do its job.
I would tend to believe you - until I got a used oil analysis done with a Hyundai GDI 2.4L engine that was even a non - turbo . At 4,000 miles the oil was pretty much shot with a low TBN used in mixed city driving conditions . Some engines are just harder on oil .
 
Running a full synthetic oil for less than 5K miles is kind a wasteful. Also, in this case you don't give the Valvoline Restore and Protect oil enough time to do its job.
It depends on the vehicle and how it is used. Short tripping in certain vehicles especially during the cold winter months can wreck havoc in some instances. Add DI to the mix, and you can be flirting with disaster following the advice of others w/o doing a used oil analysis.
 
Running a full synthetic oil for less than 5K miles is kind a wasteful. Also, in this case you don't give the Valvoline Restore and Protect oil enough time to do its job.
Youndomrewalise how much oil I’m adding in a oci right? If I wasn’t adding oil I’d try for 5k. If in your opinion it’s a waste so be it. Just don’t care anymore.


There are folks here changing oil every 3-6 months, now that’s a waste
 
Anyone recently having a harder time finding Valvoline Restore and Protect? My local Super Walmart usually has a ton of it and on Saturday they were stocked with everything but Valvoline Restore and Protect - they had zero of any weight. I ended up ordering it online at Walmart and initially all 6 were supposed to show up the next day but only 2 came, then the next day 2 more, and finally the next day 2 more.
 
Anyone recently having a harder time finding Valvoline Restore and Protect? My local Super Walmart usually has a ton of it and on Saturday they were stocked with everything but Valvoline Restore and Protect - they had zero of any weight. I ended up ordering it online at Walmart and initially all 6 were supposed to show up the next day but only 2 came, then the next day 2 more, and finally the next day 2 more.
I had to hunt more than usual on the last trip. I had to go a WM further away and they were low on stock.

There are folks here changing oil every 3-6 months, now that’s a waste
Unless testing showed that 3-6 months even if low mileage was high fuel dilution and wear metals. That was with other oils also.
 
Our 2010 Nissan Maintenance Schedule lists engine oil changes as:
Severe - Replace every 6,000 kms (3700 miles) or 3 months.
Normal - Replace every 12,000 kms (7500 miles) or 6 months.

It's on it's first OCI with Valvoline Restore and Protect 5w30 and I intend to sample & test the oil towards the end of the 2nd OCI to help optimize maintenance costs. I'm hoping to exceed 10k kms (6200 miles) and 6 months because 10k is easy to remember and I usually try to do service twice a year (spring / fall).

I'm paying a $14 CDN premium for a Valvoline Restore and Protect oil change (vs ST 5W30/40) and would like to get as much value as I can. So far the UOA I've come across suggest that this will not be an issue but I'm looking forward to see for myself.
 
Anyone recently having a harder time finding Valvoline Restore and Protect? My local Super Walmart usually has a ton of it and on Saturday they were stocked with everything but Valvoline Restore and Protect - they had zero of any weight. I ended up ordering it online at Walmart and initially all 6 were supposed to show up the next day but only 2 came, then the next day 2 more, and finally the next day 2 more.
Yes, it’s sold out for long periods for us …
 
One thing that this oil has done, is challenge the idea, present on BITOG, that an oil with cleaning properties will produce higher wear metals in UOA as it cleans. This seems not to be true at all with RP. But some expensive and fanboi’ed oils on here have often produced rather poor looking results, which was explained away as “cleaning “. I wonder if anyone will square this new phenomenon with their previous explanations.
An oil with polar compounds like esters have a tendency, in some applications, to increase the concentration of certain metals in used oil analysis. Of course not all esters clean.

I think the theory you are referencing is that engines laden with considerable deposits, deposits which are comprised of precipitate from a lubricant whose additive package is no longer able to prevent agglomeration and keep contaminants in suspension, when/if those deposits are dissolved, either via a solvent or other mechanism, that it may increase the observed concentration of certain metals in used oil analysis.

This series of used oil analysis on an engine with "varnish and carbon everywhere" using a blend of Mobil 1 Full Synthetic 0W-40 and the high ester product Valvoline Premium Blue Restore likely exhibits both the phenomenon and commentary you question the validity of:
 
Looks like they're making a 5w30, and a Valvoline Restore and Protect Synthetic blend 5w40. No Euro option yet.

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Yup and it can’t and won’t fix bad engine designs. It’s all marketing and what makes people warm and fuzzy

Funny, because so many people here on BITOG have told me that the Audi 3.0t engine in our Q7 was a bad design with piston and ring flaws and poorly engineered bla, bla, bla, yet the Valvoline Restore and Protect completely cured the severe oil guzzling on it from its plugged up low tension ring package it has. Obviously the oil control rings were stuck on it, they are not any more.

So is it a bad engine design still if the Valvoline Restore and Protect oil cured it and keeps the oil control rings clean and free? Kind proves to me this oil is the answer to some of these "poorly designed engines" people claim them to be. Either way, Valvoline Restore and Protect has proved people are off base and the engine design is not actually bad, and/or the oil works to fix the bad design. Myself, I dont care, Its proven to me that it works as it was designed to do. And to think its a EURO engine running on "non recommended" or "approved EURO oil" as well. Oh the horror of it all! Doesn't even meet the 3.5 HTHS min, OMG! Marketing be dammed, and I don't feel warm and fuzzy from it other than the fact it actually works and does what it supposed to do. Valvoline Restore and Protect has proven it works and I've never ever been a Valvoline fan before, but I am now. Have it in all my Euro vehicles and my GM 5.3 thats supposed to use Dexos approved oil, and every single one of my family's vehicles. Sampling has proven how well the wear metals are and not worth doing the sampling any longer.
 
I think the theory you are referencing is that engines laden with considerable deposits, deposits which are comprised of precipitate from a lubricant whose additive package is no longer able to prevent agglomeration and keep contaminants in suspension, when/if those deposits are dissolved, either via a solvent or other mechanism, that it may increase the observed concentration of certain metals in used oil analysis.
If I understand his observation, I think he's saying that we don't see a big uptick in wear metals in the Valvoline Restore and Protect used oil analysis even though we know it's doing cleaning, but we see it with HPL or other cleaning oils like the Valvoline Premium Blue Restore.
 
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