As someone responded to me more than one occasion, no oil in this universe will fix a bad engine design.
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And don't forget to downshift once in a while, It helps.
Explain your downshift a bit more and with which transmission and how you feel that will help.
My automatic vehicles I can cruise at whichever speed, step on the gas all the way and it will downshift, motor will increase rpm until shift point and then upshift automatically. I can also use a lower gear and use engine braking for slowing down which should create some extra vacuum. Which would help more?
My 4 cyl, 6MT '17 Accord sees a lot of extra vacuum engine braking as I'll leave it in gear and will decelerate accordingly. It also sees the higher RPM full throttle. That's my only vehicle currently using any and has since I got it with 50k, 5 years ago. It now has 128k. Current consumption and has been is about 1/2qt every 1300 miles. PCV changed a couple times, EC30 used, 1qt of HPL PCMO with other oils in place of EC30 multiple times, BG EPR used.
Currently it's on its 2nd OCI of Valvoline Restore and Protect so we'll see if that changes anything. I think my driving style with lots of full throttle followed by engine braking just uses more. All me manual transmission vehicles have done that.
Yep. It's the high vacuum during engine braking that causes the rings to "flutter" for lack of a better term. This mechanical movement will help dislodge carbon from rings.
This is the reason the WOT was invented. Even though a lot of people forget the engine braking part.
Experiencing this currently. So far, my Fit is 5k miles into continuous Valvoline Restore and Protect use (2nd interval), and the current rate of consumption is up to 1 Qt per 3k miles as opposed to the previous rate of 1 Qt per 4k miles. And it may be more than that, I’m underestimating since it’s still early on…
How long is long enough? Average new car ownership length is about 8 years.
You need to have a plan for the car. "When" you plan to sell it is important financial strategy, and should guide maintenance/repair decision making and budget.
Any costs incurred with "over-maintaining" your car with more expensive fluids or parts will, at best, be recouped for pennies on the dollar when you sell, (more than likely not at all). Cosmetic details like paint, interior, lack of damage - will contribute to actual value infinitely more than flavor of fluids used or whether or not it burns a little oil. Over the long term, washing, waxing, keeping interior clean, and not crashing into things is a lot more difficult than getting the oil changed once a year.
If your PCV system is working well, there shouldn’t be any flutter under vacuum.
Exactly. I replaced original pcv. Did seem to help consumption for bit so I thought.
Do you have any oil leaks? You may have oil leaks which are hard to detect (engine back seal, valve seals, etc). If your engine burns oil and you lave leaks too - the oil lost is much more.
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No noticeable leaks since fixing leaking valve cover gaskets and replacing PCV valve. As we said 1000 times in thread there is no magic oil to fix everything.
So basically to sum up this thread restore and protect can’t and probably won’t fix other issues in an older vehicle like mine. I took the bait and at price of it it’s obviously not worth it. Especially when I got a 5 gal pail of 15w-40 at $40
I don’t have the time to continue to add expensive magic oil either. Gets real old real fast.
Your opinions will vary
I don’t have the time to continue to add expensive magic oil either. Gets real old real fast.
Your opinions will vary
Valvoline Restore and Protect has worked well for many here, but if an engine is too far worn out and using oil for other reasons besides stuck piston rings then it won't help. But others have said that it took at least 4 runs to get results, so without doing that nothing solid can be concluded.
After 4 oci we can say it works on rings probably yes.
Go with @Retirednow and use 2 containers of Rislone at next changes. A little more than $6 bottle at Walmart.
I'm not sure how you took that away from the discussion. It has fixed burning in many older cars just like yours. I don't think you can say anything until you've done 4 or more OCIs. If you don't want to give it a full try, that's fine, but you can't say it didn't work.
How could I not say this after 4 oci?
As we discussed you can’t fix a bad engine design either.
Did you run it for 4 OCIs? Apologies if I missed that.
It looks like, he didn't.
He complains that the oil consumption increased (which is normal because he went to lower viscosity oil) and also Valvoline Restore and Protect is more expensive than the oils he run before. So, he's about to quit because of that.
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