Valvoline Restore and Protect

[krismoriah72]

Here is my 2 cents so far with the only vehicle that i have Valvoline Restore and Protect 5w30 in the sump.

I have owned my 2003 Suburban for about 30,000 miles (it has nearly 300K miles on the odometer). It only gets used about 3000 miles per year and is not my daily driver.. only to pull a trailer or when road conditions are snowy and icy.. or to pick up farm supplies. Sometimes i drive it to work but not often.

In the time i have owned it i have probably changed the oil 10 times.. with all of the BITOG favorites of the times and all of the BITOG favorite filters.

Since owning it- It has had a lifter tick at startup.. nothing has ever changed it. As far as i read its common and that one either needs to put new lifters in it..or an oil pump or an o-ring or variations of that.. but other than that its just something that i need to get used to.

I have read in various forums and social media groups that some guys think that varnish buildup on the lifters are the cause.

I am about 1000 miles into this Valvoline Restore and Protect..and the lifter tick is all but gone. I am used to this vehicle and how it has always sounded. It is not the same. Not even close.

I have never used any engine flushes or anything but the top oils like Mobil 1, Valvoline, Pennzoil etc.. and always the top oil filters of the times.

Other than the sound of the lifter tick going almost away i cant report any other benefits that i am aware of.. nor do i expect miracles.. as it has always ran great and always probably will consume alot of gas.

 

[tired]

Love how folks think this oil is magical.

It is pretty magical. It's resolved oil burning for many. You haven't used it according to manufacturer recommendations and are upset it hasn't worked yet. Again, you can't pass any judgment until you've used it as recommended. Maybe your oil burning isn't from gummed up rings. Or maybe they are just really bad, and you need to run it for longer. It's just a guess, but I'd guess that since it is burning more, then maybe your burning is from your rings. But that's just us guessing here as to the mechanism behind the temporarily increased burning some people have seen here.

Instead of judging someone why don’t you either give real advice instead of callling someone a complainer.

You have gotten lots of real advice from several here. Reiterated advice: run it for 4 OCIs before you make a decision. Or switch back to whatever you want and don't complain about it because you gave up too early.

Obviously this truck and engine was neglected. Guess YOU Missed that.

So it's the perfect candidate for Valvoline Restore and Protect. I don't think he missed that.

It's $30/jug man. It's not expensive. You have run HPL before or still are running it. This is half the cost of HPL.

This is an absolutely revolutionary product. It works in 4 OCIs. And you're really upset it didn't INSTANTLY resolve all of your engine problems. I'd politely suggest a reality check.

 

[53' Stude]

It is pretty magical. It's resolved oil burning for many. You haven't used it according to manufacturer recommendations and are upset it hasn't worked yet. Again, you can't pass any judgment until you've used it as recommended. Maybe your oil burning isn't from gummed up rings. Or maybe they are just really bad, and you need to run it for longer. It's just a guess, but I'd guess that since it is burning more, then maybe your burning is from your rings. But that's just us guessing here as to the mechanism behind the temporarily increased burning some people have seen here.


You have gotten lots of real advice from several here. Reiterated advice: run it for 4 OCIs before you make a decision. Or switch back to whatever you want and don't complain about it because you gave up too early.


So it's the perfect candidate for Valvoline Restore and Protect. I don't think he missed that.

It's $30/jug man. It's not expensive. You have run HPL before or still are running it. This is half the cost of HPL.

This is an absolutely revolutionary product. It works in 4 OCIs. And you're really upset it didn't INSTANTLY resolve all of your engine problems. I'd politely suggest a reality check.

The HPL oil I donated. It was being consumed as fast as restore and protect. Ok I’ll ply game one more time. Sure he’ll hope restore and protect consumption slows or it was a $30 plus hit each oci. If after. 4 ocis and many many quarts added I’ll think it over or say screw it

 

[JohnnyG]

If your PCV system is working well, there shouldn’t be any flutter under vacuum.

You may want to explain that to he GM engineer that told me about how the WOT works.

 

[tired]

If after. 4 ocis and many many quarts added I’ll think it over or say screw it

I think that's a great plan.

If it doesn't work, then at least you can say you gave the engine the best shot at resolving the oil burning. You'll know the rings are clean, at least. Then you would have a decision to make on how you want to proceed. Do you want to go down the path of looking at intake valves etc? You might be able to scope the cylinders and look for scoring.

 

[CleanSump]

The HPL oil I donated. It was being consumed as fast as restore and protect. Ok I’ll ply game one more time. Sure he’ll hope restore and protect consumption slows or it was a $30 plus hit each oci. If after. 4 ocis and many many quarts added I’ll think it over or say screw it

You don't have to justify your decision. You want to or you don't. Nobody on the forum has any skin in your game.

 

[53' Stude]

I think that's a great plan.

If it doesn't work, then at least you can say you gave the engine the best shot at resolving the oil burning. You'll know the rings are clean, at least. Then you would have a decision to make on how you want to proceed. Do you want to go down the path of looking at intake valves etc? You might be able to scope the cylinders and look for scoring.

The truck doesn’t owe me anything. I’d just get Providence brand 15w-40 and call it done.

 

[53' Stude]

You don't have to justify your decision. You want to or you don't. Nobody on the forum has any skin in your game.

Got it. I’m hoping this oil does something. There’s always a chance

 

[Japanese]

Instead of judging someone why don’t you either give real advice instead of calling someone a complainer.

I'm not judging you, I just clarified for @tired that you didn't do the min. 4 OCI and you're not only about to quit, but also complaining that the oil doesn't work.

It's not fair to give an opinion about anything, if you didn't cover all the requirements. In this case - min. of 4 OCI. You did only 2.

 

[53' Stude]

I'm not judging you, I just clarified for @tired that you didn't do the min. 4 OCI and you're not only about to quit, but also complaining that the oil doesn't work.

It's not fair to give an opinion about anything, if you didn't cover all the requirements. In this case - min. of 4 OCI. You did only 2.

Yup then don’t give me your opinion. If it’s not working after 4 OCI’s we shall go from there or continue on this magical path. I’m still amazed how many members use this oil. Which is a good thing. It may work for some and not others. Peace out

 

[OilStained]

Do you want to go down the path of looking at intake valves etc? You might be able to scope the cylinders and look for scoring.

Or time for retirement.

 

[53' Stude]

Or time for retirement.

Nope that ain’t happening. Unless it blows up. Runs well everything considered

 

[tired]

Nope that ain’t happening. Unless it blows up. Runs wellmeverything considered

yeah it's hard to let something go especially after you already put a bunch of work into it. Fingers crossed for you that the Valvoline Restore and Protect does the trick.

 

[53' Stude]

yeah it's hard to let something go especially after you already put a bunch of work into it. Fingers crossed for you that the Valvoline Restore and Protect does the trick.

Yeah my late father just drove the truck and didn’t do maintenance to it. I fixed the cracked frame, new exhaust(cat converter) was fine so left it. Both front wheel bearings. Valve covers replaced at 140 l& which was mileage when I inherited it. Got new snows ordered thru work als but this winter has been kinda mild

 

[tired]

Yeah my late father just drove the truck and didn’t do maintenance to it. I fixed the cracked frame, new exhaust(cat converter) was fine so left it. Both front wheel bearings. Valve covers replaced at 140 l& which was mileage when I inherited it. Got new snows ordered thru work als but this winter has been kinda mild

That is definitely a reason to keep the truck and make it last! Hope you are doing ok.

 

[Japanese]

Sure he’ll hope restore and protect consumption slows or it was a $30 plus hit each oci. If after. 4 ocis and many many quarts added I’ll think it over or say screw it.

O.K. let's do the math for 4 OCI with Valvoline Restore and Protect.
How many quarts is one oil change and how many quarts it consumed for 5,000 miles?

Rough estimate - if your oil sump is about 7 quarts and it burns 3 quarts for 5K miles OCI, this is 10 qt per oil change.
Valvoline Restore and Protect at Walmart is $30 (before taxes) for 5 qt jug. So one oil change cost you about $60 before taxes.
4 OCI per $60 is $240.

So, for $260 you have high chances to eliminate or significantly diminish your oil consumption without leaving the truck in a shop for major engine overhaul.

Compared to the oil you used before (10W-30, 15W-40) which might be about $25 per 5 qt (if full synthetic), the difference is only $40 for 4 OCI or $80, if the oil you're getting before was $20 per 5 qt.

 

[53' Stude]

O.K. let's do the math for 4 OCI with Valvoline Restore and Protect.
How many quarts is one oil change and how many quarts it consumed for 5,000 miles?

Rough estimate - if your oil sump is about 7 quarts and it burns 3 quarts for 5K miles OCI, this is 10 qt per oil change.
Valvoline Restore and Protect at Walmart is $30 (before taxes) for 5 qt jug. So one oil change cost you about $60 before taxes.
4 OCI per $60 is $240.

So, for $260 you have high chances to eliminate or significantly diminish your oil consumption without leaving the truck in a shop for major engine overhaul.

Compared to the oil you used before (10W-30, 15W-40) which might be about $25 per 5 qt (if full synthetic), the difference is only $40 for 4 OCI or $80, if the oil you're getting before was $20 per 5 qt.

Basically I got 5 gal 15w-40 for )
$46 and change.

Sump capacity is exactly 4 quarts. In one realistic oci of 3500 miles truck used 3 quarts.


I’ve not used any 15w-40 ever in truck. 10w-30 rotella and HPL and restore and protect. Idle smoothed out as early last week. I just don’t see continuing after 4 OCI’s’ if it’s still using oil. More things in life to worry about like mybyes and health.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Sump capacity is exactly 4 quarts. In one realistic oci of 3500 miles truck used 3 quarts.

If you coast down a long hill with the throttle completely closed, and then you stomp on it pretty hard do you see any blue smoke cloud out of the exhaust? If so, it's probably getting lots of oil through the valve stem seals. If you have been cruising at steady throttle for say a couple of miles, then nail it hard full throttle do you see any smoke? If it smokes in that case, it could be oil control rings. If valve guides are really bad, it may smoke some in both cases. Around that 1 quart per 1000 miles is quite a bit of oil consumption.

On that engine, it would probably be pretty easy to replace the valve guide seals. Just need some nylon rope in the cylinder at TDC to keep the valve in place and a valve spring compressor that will work with the heads on.

 

[Japanese]

2 oci’s of restore and protect 5w-30 truck consumed it faster than 10w-30 and 15w-40

Basically I got 5 gal 15w-40 for )
$46 and change.

Sump capacity is exactly 4 quarts. In one realistic oci of 3500 miles truck used 3 quarts.


I’ve not used any 15w-40 ever in truck.

I'm sorry, got confused a little.

You can easily run Valvoline Restore and Protect for 5K OCI after your second oil change, regardless of the oil consumption. You can keep the 15W-40 for the summer. Is the 15W-40 synthetic or not?

 

[53' Stude]

I'm sorry, got confused a little.

You can easily run Valvoline Restore and Protect for 5K OCI after your second oil change, regardless of the oil consumption. You can keep the 15W-40 for the summer. Is the 15W-40 synthetic or not?

No worries. The 15w-40 providence brand is a blend

I’ve never gon more than say 3800 on oci