Valvoline Restore and Protect

[KnappAttak]

Adapted Sequence IIIH Testing is very hard on oil. Oil temps at over 300F and the engine screaming at 3900 RPM for 90 hrs. I'd think Valvoline Restore and Protect would do just fine in a turbo housing.

Here is the test parameters for the Adapted Sequence IIIH testing.

https://www.swri.org/sites/default/files/sequence-iiih-test.pdf

 

[ZeeOSix]

Any thoughts on if this oil will be bad for Toyota vvti filters? Potentially clogging?

A good oil filter should keep it out of things like that. Oil flow volume through the VVTI circuit is minuscule (it's basically a hydraulic pressure circuit with very low flow), so the chances of anything large getting swept down that path is pretty low I'd think. Haven't heard of anyone posting about VVT issues after using VRP.

 

[SimpleSyrup]

So I've done three VRP oil changes on a K 24 Honda with 200,000 miles.

Over about 12,000 miles, an increase in fuel economy of about 5%. Nothing else changed on the vehicle, not the driver, not the tires, not the places traveled.

Prior to VRP, oil consumption was around 1 quart per 1200 miles. It has stabilized at a half quart every 1200 miles.

The reduction in oil consumption happened after the first oil change interval. It has not decreased or increased since. I typically don't top it off with VRP because I need a full five qt jug for an oil change so I just throw whatever random crap I have in the cabinet in there. It might be 10w30, it might be 5W 30 maybe 0W 20. I don't really care. I don't invest a lot into this vehicle when I'm topping it off with the oil, just making sure it doesn't run out. So unfortunately by the end of the oil change it's about 60% VRP and 40% random top up oil left in the engine.

I think this is the end of the line for the VRP. I have some of the Valvoline 150,000 mile oil sitting in the cabinet I'll use next and compare the outcomes for 3 OCI to see differences over the next 18 months.

 

[YZJB]

So I've done three VRP oil changes on a K 24 Honda with 200,000 miles.

Over about 12,000 miles, an increase in fuel economy of about 5%. Nothing else changed on the vehicle, not the driver, not the tires, not the places traveled.

Prior to VRP, oil consumption was around 1 quart per 1200 miles. It has stabilized at a half quart every 1200 miles.

The reduction in oil consumption happened after the first oil change interval. It has not decreased or increased since. I typically don't top it off with VRP because I need a full five qt jug for an oil change so I just throw whatever random crap I have in the cabinet in there. It might be 10w30, it might be 5W 30 maybe 0W 20. I don't really care. I don't invest a lot into this vehicle when I'm topping it off with the oil, just making sure it doesn't run out. So unfortunately by the end of the oil change it's about 60% VRP and 40% random top up oil left in the engine.

I think this is the end of the line for the VRP. I have some of the Valvoline 150,000 mile oil sitting in the cabinet I'll use next and compare the outcomes for 3 OCI to see differences over the next 18 months.

Why stop at three OCIs? Doesn’t Valvoline say it needs four OCIs to do its job?

I think three OCIs plus the mixing of random top up oils has stifled R&P’s chance of working as well as it could.

 

[Patman]

Why stop at three OCIs? Doesn’t Valvoline say it needs four OCIs to do its job?

I think three OCIs plus the mixing of random top up oils has stifled R&P’s chance of working as well as it could.

I had good results with just 3 OCIs in my Civic. Cut the consumption by 50%. I did run it for a total of about 18,000 miles in those three runs though so that is a decent amount of cleanup time. I was anxious to switch over to ESP X2 though.

 

[SimpleSyrup]

Why stop at three OCIs? Doesn’t Valvoline say it needs four OCIs to do its job?

I think three OCIs plus the mixing of random top up oils has stifled R&P’s chance of working as well as it could.

Well you don't see the marketing for this 150 K oil hardly ever, and strangely even though it's a blended oil, it is priced about 10% higher than VRP.

I would like to test my theory that there's some sort of high-quality additives in this that are not in VRP.

If VRP focuses on piston ring deposits, perhaps there's something special about the 150 K oil that can mitigate the remaining oil consumption issues.

 

[Glenda W.]

Took me 3 oci’s just to start noticing improvement. I recommend 4 oci’s minimum.

 

[mt23]

Took me 3 oci’s just to start noticing improvement. I recommend 4 oci’s minimum.

I second this, with similar FB25 engine as Glenda. For different reasons I've done more frequent OCI and currently 16,000 miles of VRP use am seeing an improvement in consumption of about 50% less oil consumed while in the middle of a cross country trip towing with this engine too. Seeing days straight of 230-260 degree oil temps. I will do 20-30,000 miles of VRP use before thinking of switching back to my favorite oil which I have every reason to believe will keep the rings clean. I started my favorite oil with already some oil use and dirty rings. Consumption mostly held steady but 160k at the time and losing the battle switched to VRP. Now 176,000 and consumption almost better than ever, likely to improve further... some engines may need VRP in use for longer than others to see full benefits

 

[Faawrenchbndr]

So we have an FJ Cruiser with 151k miles
I’ve always done a < 5K OCI
It’s never consumed any oil
However, last fall, it started to show a slight poof of smoke at start.
Started using VRP and have about 6500 miles
Smoke is pretty much gone, can’t see anything at all anymore.

So here’s the question. Assume it was a ring starting to stick? I really haven’t heard much about seal conditioners in VRP.

Anyone have thoughts?

 

[buster]

"I’m a believer after a 60-day test of Valvoline Restore & Protect (R&P) oil for gasoline engines. I’ve yet to try Premium Blue Restore Gen 2, made for diesel engines. These oils cost up to $1 more per quart (in the 5-quart or 4-quart jugs) compared to other full-synthetic oils from Valvoline and other major brands.

My 1997 Dodge truck, with 150,000 miles on the 5.9-liter (360-cubic-inch) gasoline V8, was blowing gray oil smoke when started cold. Steady highway drives used a quart in about 800 miles. Filter inspection after using R&P revealed nasty little carbon particles, presumably from the piston rings. After 2,000 miles, the start-up smoke is gone. Highway oil use is down about 25%. The same drop in oil use is evident in our 2013 Subaru with 50,000 miles on a factory-recall new short block. I’m planning to change oil every 2,500 to 3,000 miles and cut open the filters to gauge the engine’s internal condition." - New Developments in Engine oil

 

[CarlB]

So we have an FJ Cruiser with 151k miles
I’ve always done a < 5K OCI
It’s never consumed any oil
However, last fall, it started to show a slight poof of smoke at start.
Started using VRP and have about 6500 miles
Smoke is pretty much gone, can’t see anything at all anymore.

So here’s the question. Assume it was a ring starting to stick? I really haven’t heard much about seal conditioners in VRP.

Anyone have thoughts?

This behavior on startup is usually from valve stem seals. If there was too much varnish on the valve stem, maybe VRP helped. It could be totally unrelated.

 

[tired]

I second this, with similar FB25 engine as Glenda. For different reasons I've done more frequent OCI and currently 16,000 miles of VRP use am seeing an improvement in consumption of about 50% less oil consumed while in the middle of a cross country trip towing with this engine too. Seeing days straight of 230-260 degree oil temps. I will do 20-30,000 miles of VRP use before thinking of switching back to my favorite oil which I have every reason to believe will keep the rings clean. I started my favorite oil with already some oil use and dirty rings. Consumption mostly held steady but 160k at the time and losing the battle switched to VRP. Now 176,000 and consumption almost better than ever, likely to improve further... some engines may need VRP in use for longer than others to see full benefits

What's your favorite oil?

 

[mt23]

What's your favorite oil?

I've used different viscosities of HPL for the past 80,000 miles up to the VRP trial. I observed my engine clean up a bit through the fill port while using it too. Filter had good evidence of cleaning initially too the first few intervals of HPL. Mine has had perfectly acceptable consumption rate the entire 176,000 miles so far, just an odd habit of consuming at the start of the interval much more than any other time. My plan is 20-30,000 miles of VRP and then back to HPL and of the No VII 10w30 flavor after emailing and discussing viscosities with David.

 

[tired]

I've used different viscosities of HPL for the past 80,000 miles up to the VRP trial. I observed my engine clean up a bit through the fill port while using it too. Filter had good evidence of cleaning initially too the first few intervals of HPL. Mine has had perfectly acceptable consumption rate the entire 176,000 miles so far, just an odd habit of consuming at the start of the interval much more than any other time. My plan is 20-30,000 miles of VRP and then back to HPL and of the No VII 10w30 flavor after emailing and discussing viscosities with David.

That is very interesting. Thank you for sharing. Not sure I've seen another report of someone going from HPL to VRP and seeing an improvement in oil consumption. With that much time with HPL, I would have thought that those rings were very clean. What were your OCIs like on HPL?

 

[mt23]

That is very interesting. Thank you for sharing. Not sure I've seen another report of someone going from HPL to VRP and seeing an improvement in oil consumption. With that much time with HPL, I would have thought that those rings were very clean. What were your OCIs like on HPL?

I have every reason to believe HPL will clean rings thoroughly. I also have every reason to believe the FB25 engine is a more extreme example of a difficult ring set to clean. My OCIs were anywhere from 13-18k

 

[SwampSurvivor]

Just had to add another quart. Unfortunately, I didn't get as many miles out of that quart as the last one. But it had a few hundred miles towing the Jeep. This is my very warn out 5.4L. It also is leaking a bit from the head/block surface a bit due to corrosion


Was going 70-ish on the highway (about 150 miles total there), so about 2300 RPM with some heavy throttle. Then another 100 miles of 2 lane back roads with hills, not using overdrive and having to shift down frequently so the occasional run up to 3500 or so. One STEEP hill a few times where I just planted my foot on the floor for minutes on end in 3rd gear. Near the top it was a minute or two with my foot planted and the thing screaming away at 4000 RPM.

Still less oil usage than before. I'm at around 3,000 IIRC so I'll do a change soon. It's DARK.

I worry about how hard I end up running this thing, but the piston slap gets real quiet the harder it gets run.

 

[Hohn]

Took me 3 oci’s just to start noticing improvement. I recommend 4 oci’s minimum.

Sort of depends on what issues you have. My case, with heavy varnishing, I could see visible improvement in the overhead in a month.

 

[Glenda W.]

Sort of depends on what issues you have. My case, with heavy varnishing, I could see visible improvement in the overhead in a month.

The fact that R&P can clean varnish is impressive! I suspect my oil burner had hard carbon deposits in the ring lands. The rest of my engine was visually spotless.

 

[Mav123]

Planning to use VRP (Valvoline Restore and Protect) on my 2010 Explorer with 165k miles. How often do you typically change the oil, and what type of filter do you use? Is it true that you have to change VRT more often than other types?

 

[tired]

Planning to use VRT on my 2010 Explorer with 165k miles. How often do you typically change the oil, and what type of filter do you use? Is it true that you have to change VRT more often than other types?

What's VRT?