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Valvoline Maxlife vs. Valvoline Import ATF
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Maxlife Dex/Merc is thinner than the Valvoline Import ATF. Check their product data sheets for compatability with your requirements.
For instance, newer Toyotas take WS ATF, which is low viscosity. The Maxlife is compatible, but the Import is not.
For instance, newer Toyotas take WS ATF, which is low viscosity. The Maxlife is compatible, but the Import is not.
http://www.carquestprofessionals.com/cat...e%206.10.13.pdf
See page 8 for the Toyota Corolla and Page 5 for Hyundai applications. Maxlife is recommended for both of your vehicles.
See page 8 for the Toyota Corolla and Page 5 for Hyundai applications. Maxlife is recommended for both of your vehicles.
I don't think that Hyundai has gotten on the "low-vis" ATF bandwagon yet, but I could be wrong. I'd suggest MaxLife in the Toy and Valvoline Import in the Hyundai.
pbm - check your PM about the Volvo filters.
pbm - check your PM about the Volvo filters.
Originally Posted By: 147_Grain
http://www.carquestprofessionals.com/cat...e%206.10.13.pdf
See page 8 for the Toyota Corolla and Page 5 for Hyundai applications. Maxlife is recommended for both of your vehicles.
amazing how ubiquitous the Maxlife ATF is!
http://www.carquestprofessionals.com/cat...e%206.10.13.pdf
See page 8 for the Toyota Corolla and Page 5 for Hyundai applications. Maxlife is recommended for both of your vehicles.
amazing how ubiquitous the Maxlife ATF is!
Originally Posted By: Lolvoguy
Originally Posted By: 147_Grain
http://www.carquestprofessionals.com/cat...e%206.10.13.pdf
See page 8 for the Toyota Corolla and Page 5 for Hyundai applications. Maxlife is recommended for both of your vehicles.
amazing how ubiquitous the Maxlife ATF is!
b.c Valvonline did a great marketing job on Maxx Life OIL... then when that did well they went to maxx life eveything.
Im waiting to see Maxx LIFE Windshelf washer fluid and Maxx LIFE Brake FLUID..
They came out with MAXX LIFE Fuel system cleaner.
LOL
I wont use Valvoline anymore after talking to a SHELL REP.
VALVOLINE from what I have been told uses cheap base stock oils then loads it with addatives in order to pass specs... Perhaps you you follow a good OCI valvoline is good however I now feel its really nothing special.. Im not saying its bad.. its just not great or the best...
sorta like GAS... You can buy gas that is loaded with additives then you end up with less Gas. Perhaps thats why Cheveron gas is so good.. More gas and just techron addative....
I think I read about that on how top teir gas meets spec... some oil companies load with addatives as I said.. but you cant burn addatives.. they are there to help clean up the fuel sys a lil....
Originally Posted By: 147_Grain
http://www.carquestprofessionals.com/cat...e%206.10.13.pdf
See page 8 for the Toyota Corolla and Page 5 for Hyundai applications. Maxlife is recommended for both of your vehicles.
amazing how ubiquitous the Maxlife ATF is!
b.c Valvonline did a great marketing job on Maxx Life OIL... then when that did well they went to maxx life eveything.
Im waiting to see Maxx LIFE Windshelf washer fluid and Maxx LIFE Brake FLUID..
They came out with MAXX LIFE Fuel system cleaner.
LOL
I wont use Valvoline anymore after talking to a SHELL REP.
VALVOLINE from what I have been told uses cheap base stock oils then loads it with addatives in order to pass specs... Perhaps you you follow a good OCI valvoline is good however I now feel its really nothing special.. Im not saying its bad.. its just not great or the best...
sorta like GAS... You can buy gas that is loaded with additives then you end up with less Gas. Perhaps thats why Cheveron gas is so good.. More gas and just techron addative....
I think I read about that on how top teir gas meets spec... some oil companies load with addatives as I said.. but you cant burn addatives.. they are there to help clean up the fuel sys a lil....
FWIW:
Valvoline's Maxlife ATF is promoted as a "Full Synthetic" and they say it "outperforms conventional transmission fluids" (Part# VV324).
http://www.carquestprofessionals.com/cat...e%206.10.13.pdf
Valvoline's Maxlife ATF is promoted as a "Full Synthetic" and they say it "outperforms conventional transmission fluids" (Part# VV324).
http://www.carquestprofessionals.com/cat...e%206.10.13.pdf
Originally Posted By: 147_Grain
FWIW:
Valvoline's Maxlife ATF is promoted as a "Full Synthetic" and they say it "outperforms conventional transmission fluids" (Part# VV324).
http://www.carquestprofessionals.com/cat...e%206.10.13.pdf
Again They say... VALVOLINE says.... I wonder how much Valvoline spends on R&D compared to marketing?
Tell you what they messed up wtih Nexgen.... I saw it for 3.19$ a QT at O'Reilly Auto Parts and the guy said they cant even give that stuff away and he laughed when we talked over the Nexgen Syn.
Other words I just feel there is better stuff then Valvoline.....
Not saying its bad... I just feel there is better stuff for the same $...
Somtimes valvoline will say suitable for this application.....
I like when they says Approved by OEM or X specs aproved with logo sorta like Castrol ATF has on the back....
Not recommended or suitable.
I mean a baloney sandwich a suitable lunch??? Correct? Does that mean its good?
Well sure it might be good if you have old ATF that been in a car for gosh knows how long.
but soon you come to realize you got good product but not hing special.
Sorta like if your hungry and some throws you a cracker you will be like thats the best cracker I have ever had... thats a RITZ.. can I have another .. please please.
then in 6 months.. after the crackers.. you say.. Hmm I got regular ole plain crackers.
Sorta like you ever been to Walmart and they have the top product just say Oatmeal and 1 is Quaker Oats meal and the other is another brand, and it says compare to Qauker Oats
and sure you if hungry you will say WOW this is good... but later on youll be like I got regular ole oatmeal.. nothing special.... Like Quaker Oats.. you know the guy with the CUTE Face... CUTE as in chubby cheeks.. remember that movie CRAZY PEPOPLE WITH DUDLY MOORE
the guy that played in ORGINAL AURTHER MOVIE..
that was about marketing... all that 4 out of 5 DRs approve this brand over others..
great movie have to see how Marketing works
FWIW:
Valvoline's Maxlife ATF is promoted as a "Full Synthetic" and they say it "outperforms conventional transmission fluids" (Part# VV324).
http://www.carquestprofessionals.com/cat...e%206.10.13.pdf
Again They say... VALVOLINE says.... I wonder how much Valvoline spends on R&D compared to marketing?
Tell you what they messed up wtih Nexgen.... I saw it for 3.19$ a QT at O'Reilly Auto Parts and the guy said they cant even give that stuff away and he laughed when we talked over the Nexgen Syn.
Other words I just feel there is better stuff then Valvoline.....
Not saying its bad... I just feel there is better stuff for the same $...
Somtimes valvoline will say suitable for this application.....
I like when they says Approved by OEM or X specs aproved with logo sorta like Castrol ATF has on the back....
Not recommended or suitable.
I mean a baloney sandwich a suitable lunch??? Correct? Does that mean its good?
Well sure it might be good if you have old ATF that been in a car for gosh knows how long.
but soon you come to realize you got good product but not hing special.
Sorta like if your hungry and some throws you a cracker you will be like thats the best cracker I have ever had... thats a RITZ.. can I have another .. please please.
then in 6 months.. after the crackers.. you say.. Hmm I got regular ole plain crackers.
Sorta like you ever been to Walmart and they have the top product just say Oatmeal and 1 is Quaker Oats meal and the other is another brand, and it says compare to Qauker Oats
and sure you if hungry you will say WOW this is good... but later on youll be like I got regular ole oatmeal.. nothing special.... Like Quaker Oats.. you know the guy with the CUTE Face... CUTE as in chubby cheeks.. remember that movie CRAZY PEPOPLE WITH DUDLY MOORE
the guy that played in ORGINAL AURTHER MOVIE..
that was about marketing... all that 4 out of 5 DRs approve this brand over others..
great movie have to see how Marketing works
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Originally Posted By: 147_Grain
FWIW:
Valvoline's Maxlife ATF is promoted as a "Full Synthetic" and they say it "outperforms conventional transmission fluids" (Part# VV324).
http://www.carquestprofessionals.com/cat...e%206.10.13.pdf
again if you read the PDF it does not say what lab did the testing... Im sure it was Valvoline R&D... even the number to call is a Valvoline number.
Now even REDLINE and AMSOIL They are special and independ testers will take the time to test it.. Perhaps even Amsoil and Redline and Others like Royal Purple might pay them to do tests... this way no one can say .. well you did the testing.
I mean my goodness think about it.... If I came out with somthing and I said its good b/c I tested it or my people who work for me tested it....
would you not want the some indepentant testing?
again Im not saying valvoline is bad or will hurt anything... .I just do not feel anymore that is the best or anything special.... If you want to use then by all means go for it.
However if you do your research and most do you might realize there is better out there for the same price.
FWIW:
Valvoline's Maxlife ATF is promoted as a "Full Synthetic" and they say it "outperforms conventional transmission fluids" (Part# VV324).
http://www.carquestprofessionals.com/cat...e%206.10.13.pdf
again if you read the PDF it does not say what lab did the testing... Im sure it was Valvoline R&D... even the number to call is a Valvoline number.
Now even REDLINE and AMSOIL They are special and independ testers will take the time to test it.. Perhaps even Amsoil and Redline and Others like Royal Purple might pay them to do tests... this way no one can say .. well you did the testing.
I mean my goodness think about it.... If I came out with somthing and I said its good b/c I tested it or my people who work for me tested it....
would you not want the some indepentant testing?
again Im not saying valvoline is bad or will hurt anything... .I just do not feel anymore that is the best or anything special.... If you want to use then by all means go for it.
However if you do your research and most do you might realize there is better out there for the same price.
I'm not sure how "independent lab" would make any difference here if the methodology is the same and the lab is large and professional. I highly doubt Chevron, Shell, BP, XOM do anything different and sent their stuff outside for all tests (other than the API certification), because they are big enough of targets that would be sued into oblivion in the US if they lie.
Personally for the same money I do use other brands' oil (M1 or Pennzoil Platinum / Pennzoil Ultra, but not Castrol) over Synpower because I looked at the spec sheet and don't see the additives that I like (I'm a sucker for moly). However I do like their Maxlife ATF over other brand's, and is using it right now and the last 2 intervals (total 90k) with no problem at all.
Not sure what's David1's beef is with Valvoline, but objectively speaking I don't see their products being bad.
Personally for the same money I do use other brands' oil (M1 or Pennzoil Platinum / Pennzoil Ultra, but not Castrol) over Synpower because I looked at the spec sheet and don't see the additives that I like (I'm a sucker for moly). However I do like their Maxlife ATF over other brand's, and is using it right now and the last 2 intervals (total 90k) with no problem at all.
Not sure what's David1's beef is with Valvoline, but objectively speaking I don't see their products being bad.
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
I'm not sure how "independent lab" would make any difference here if the methodology is the same and the lab is large and professional. I highly doubt Chevron, Shell, BP, XOM do anything different and sent their stuff outside for all tests (other than the API certification), because they are big enough of targets that would be sued into oblivion in the US if they lie.
Personally for the same money I do use other brands' oil (M1 or Pennzoil Platinum / Pennzoil Ultra, but not Castrol) over Synpower because I looked at the spec sheet and don't see the additives that I like (I'm a sucker for moly). However I do like their Maxlife ATF over other brand's, and is using it right now and the last 2 intervals (total 90k) with no problem at all.
Not sure what's David1's beef is with Valvoline, but objectively speaking I don't see their products being bad.
I didnt say there were bad.. I said they were nothing special.... and there is products that are probably better for the same $ or less.
Im not saying or never said they are bad.
I'm not sure how "independent lab" would make any difference here if the methodology is the same and the lab is large and professional. I highly doubt Chevron, Shell, BP, XOM do anything different and sent their stuff outside for all tests (other than the API certification), because they are big enough of targets that would be sued into oblivion in the US if they lie.
Personally for the same money I do use other brands' oil (M1 or Pennzoil Platinum / Pennzoil Ultra, but not Castrol) over Synpower because I looked at the spec sheet and don't see the additives that I like (I'm a sucker for moly). However I do like their Maxlife ATF over other brand's, and is using it right now and the last 2 intervals (total 90k) with no problem at all.
Not sure what's David1's beef is with Valvoline, but objectively speaking I don't see their products being bad.
I didnt say there were bad.. I said they were nothing special.... and there is products that are probably better for the same $ or less.
Im not saying or never said they are bad.
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
Not sure what's David1's beef is with Valvoline, but objectively speaking I don't see their products being bad.
+1
Subjective personal opinions (that are silly at times) don't mean much without referencing objective information - even if it's from the manufacture producing the product.
Not sure what's David1's beef is with Valvoline, but objectively speaking I don't see their products being bad.
+1
Subjective personal opinions (that are silly at times) don't mean much without referencing objective information - even if it's from the manufacture producing the product.
Originally Posted By: 147_Grain
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
Not sure what's David1's beef is with Valvoline, but objectively speaking I don't see their products being bad.
+1
Subjective personal opinions (that are silly at times) don't mean much without referencing objective information - even if it's from the manufacture producing the product.
Ask me what Oil I have in my ENGINE now?
Here is answer.. VALVOLINE MAXX LIFE Full Synthetic.. I got it for 5$ a QT at Walmart.
However on next OCI.... Moibl 1 HM.
Hope I can find it at that price at Walmart..
However If I can find MAXX LIFE Full Synthetic and 5$ per QT again I will use it.
Im not saying Valvoline is bad.... All im saying is its nothing special.... thats all.
Think about it... if there was no MAXX LIFE product out.... how many of you would be using Valvoline products???
B/c Valvoline did a fantastic job with marketing with MAXX LIFE...
Does it mean its better or special???
I dunno... I just dont see any OEMs that come pre filled with Valvoline like I do others.
Land rover comes from factory with CASTROL ATF FLUID... BMW come pre filled from factory with Castrol in Engine....
Please answer me what car comes from dealer pre loaded with Valvoline prodcuts.
Again not saying they are bad.. Heck I have it in my car now.... but for ATF... I dunno.
perhaps if I was having a problem and the transmission was going to have to be dropped I might try it....
I mean what proof is there? Other then valvolines word?
what car company says to use VALVOLINE?
Again not saying they are bad or not to use.. I use it the motor oil.... and will again if I can get good deal....
again just dont feel its special as they claim.
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
Not sure what's David1's beef is with Valvoline, but objectively speaking I don't see their products being bad.
+1
Subjective personal opinions (that are silly at times) don't mean much without referencing objective information - even if it's from the manufacture producing the product.
Ask me what Oil I have in my ENGINE now?
Here is answer.. VALVOLINE MAXX LIFE Full Synthetic.. I got it for 5$ a QT at Walmart.
However on next OCI.... Moibl 1 HM.
Hope I can find it at that price at Walmart..
However If I can find MAXX LIFE Full Synthetic and 5$ per QT again I will use it.
Im not saying Valvoline is bad.... All im saying is its nothing special.... thats all.
Think about it... if there was no MAXX LIFE product out.... how many of you would be using Valvoline products???
B/c Valvoline did a fantastic job with marketing with MAXX LIFE...
Does it mean its better or special???
I dunno... I just dont see any OEMs that come pre filled with Valvoline like I do others.
Land rover comes from factory with CASTROL ATF FLUID... BMW come pre filled from factory with Castrol in Engine....
Please answer me what car comes from dealer pre loaded with Valvoline prodcuts.
Again not saying they are bad.. Heck I have it in my car now.... but for ATF... I dunno.
perhaps if I was having a problem and the transmission was going to have to be dropped I might try it....
I mean what proof is there? Other then valvolines word?
what car company says to use VALVOLINE?
Again not saying they are bad or not to use.. I use it the motor oil.... and will again if I can get good deal....
again just dont feel its special as they claim.
Cars come from the factory with the oil that has the best manufacturers sales rep. And for the record, BMW is changing their selection soon.
Originally Posted By: Barkleymut
Cars come from the factory with the oil that has the best manufacturers sales rep. And for the record, BMW is changing their selection soon.
That may be true in some cases, but in other cases a car manufacturer runs their durability, and other tests using oil with specific formulations from specific refiners.
Cars come from the factory with the oil that has the best manufacturers sales rep. And for the record, BMW is changing their selection soon.
That may be true in some cases, but in other cases a car manufacturer runs their durability, and other tests using oil with specific formulations from specific refiners.
Originally Posted By: David1
Originally Posted By: Lolvoguy
Originally Posted By: 147_Grain
http://www.carquestprofessionals.com/cat...e%206.10.13.pdf
See page 8 for the Toyota Corolla and Page 5 for Hyundai applications. Maxlife is recommended for both of your vehicles.
amazing how ubiquitous the Maxlife ATF is!
b.c Valvonline did a great marketing job on Maxx Life OIL... then when that did well they went to maxx life eveything.
Im waiting to see Maxx LIFE Windshelf washer fluid and Maxx LIFE Brake FLUID..
They came out with MAXX LIFE Fuel system cleaner.
LOL
I wont use Valvoline anymore after talking to a SHELL REP.
VALVOLINE from what I have been told uses cheap base stock oils then loads it with addatives in order to pass specs... Perhaps you you follow a good OCI valvoline is good however I now feel its really nothing special.. Im not saying its bad.. its just not great or the best...
sorta like GAS... You can buy gas that is loaded with additives then you end up with less Gas. Perhaps thats why Cheveron gas is so good.. More gas and just techron addative....
I think I read about that on how top teir gas meets spec... some oil companies load with addatives as I said.. but you cant burn addatives.. they are there to help clean up the fuel sys a lil....
Its MAX life, not MAXX life
Originally Posted By: Lolvoguy
Originally Posted By: 147_Grain
http://www.carquestprofessionals.com/cat...e%206.10.13.pdf
See page 8 for the Toyota Corolla and Page 5 for Hyundai applications. Maxlife is recommended for both of your vehicles.
amazing how ubiquitous the Maxlife ATF is!
b.c Valvonline did a great marketing job on Maxx Life OIL... then when that did well they went to maxx life eveything.
Im waiting to see Maxx LIFE Windshelf washer fluid and Maxx LIFE Brake FLUID..
They came out with MAXX LIFE Fuel system cleaner.
LOL
I wont use Valvoline anymore after talking to a SHELL REP.
VALVOLINE from what I have been told uses cheap base stock oils then loads it with addatives in order to pass specs... Perhaps you you follow a good OCI valvoline is good however I now feel its really nothing special.. Im not saying its bad.. its just not great or the best...
sorta like GAS... You can buy gas that is loaded with additives then you end up with less Gas. Perhaps thats why Cheveron gas is so good.. More gas and just techron addative....
I think I read about that on how top teir gas meets spec... some oil companies load with addatives as I said.. but you cant burn addatives.. they are there to help clean up the fuel sys a lil....
Its MAX life, not MAXX life
Originally Posted By: Barkleymut
Cars come from the factory with the oil that has the best manufacturers sales rep. And for the record, BMW is changing their selection soon.
Will it be Valvoline?
That would be good if it is....
Would be nice to see some cars come factory filled wit Valvoline.
Again.. I have Maxx LIFE Full Synthetic in my car now.
I have use Mobil 1 High Mileage also.
but I got the Maxx Life Full Synthetic for 5$ a Quart at Walmart....
and Honda only uses I think 3 and a half quarts of Oil..
The Honda V6 3.0 dont use much oil.. first time I did a oil change I over filled it.
I put a 5 Qaurt JUB in it.... then when I check the stick it was way overfilled and had to remove some....
Cars come from the factory with the oil that has the best manufacturers sales rep. And for the record, BMW is changing their selection soon.
Will it be Valvoline?
That would be good if it is....
Would be nice to see some cars come factory filled wit Valvoline.
Again.. I have Maxx LIFE Full Synthetic in my car now.
I have use Mobil 1 High Mileage also.
but I got the Maxx Life Full Synthetic for 5$ a Quart at Walmart....
and Honda only uses I think 3 and a half quarts of Oil..
The Honda V6 3.0 dont use much oil.. first time I did a oil change I over filled it.
I put a 5 Qaurt JUB in it.... then when I check the stick it was way overfilled and had to remove some....
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