I do appreciate their transparency on this matter:
Thanks and you're right, I did miss it on the first scan; it is located on Page 4.It's there, I almost missed it too. CVTs are in the right column on the last page.
Has your opinion on this fluid changed? Would you still use it in an automatic, non-cvt that is listed as compatible?Thanks and you're right, I did miss it on the first scan; Page 4.
No, my opinion has not changed as Afton has never sent any Mu(v) charts to convince me otherwise.Has your opinion on this fluid changed? Would you still use it in an automatic, non-cvt that is listed as compatible?
So, what's a good ATF to use now, that the BITOG Holy Grail Fluid is no longer the best?No, my opinion has not changed as Afton has never sent any Mu(v) charts to convince me otherwise.
Another thing people forget to change.....the filters inside. They do eventually load up with shavings and whatever else. So regardless eventually all that debris is going to just circulate. If someone wants to cut them open, I will mail them. I change cvt with a cult like dedication and it has possibly payed off as the 9th gen Accord had some issues earlier not so much 16-17. Found another website listing the 60k or less between intervals for changing.
Oh but I am having it changed every month.Why take a chance on a CVT fluid.... Just use OEM fluid....Its not like you are changing it every month...
That’s what I think - CVTs, especially the Toyota one with a starting clutch also use multi-disc clutches as well as TCCs. Also, some friction-on-metal action happens in regular automatics.I never saw a side-by-side comparison of any CVT fluid with a representative step-geared transmission fluid.
Pumps, valves and servos in either style unit likely match fluid performance needs but isn't the segmented steel band running against smooth tapered cones THE difference maker?
I seriously doubt it would meet the various requirements for all the different licenses.Yep. I'm also not interested in paying licensing fee's.
How much are they?Yep. I'm also not interested in paying licensing fee's.
Haha ! "Beta" testing was done a long time ago along with extensive lab/internal testing before it ever went into a vehicle on public roads. There could be members here who tested it and still use the product but they can't talk about it.Sorry but I would not volunteer to be a beta tester for a new additive package that anyone claims works