It’s more like one brand of Phillips screwdriver can fit more than one brand of Phillips head screw. Using coolant instead is like the hammer to cut bread, you’re not that far away.
Valvoline MaxLife ATF now includes CVT applications (as of 2021, May), Date Codes
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No one knows.... They can probably negotiate a flat rate based on historical sales or the license holder might just charge a fee per "unit" (or volume). A lot of people say this is why Amsoil products aren't "licensed" for any application (maybe some products are ??
). Not having those license fees helps keep their prices low (/s) too.
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Yeah … lots to do with volumes too … I buy Valvoline ATF really cheap even with approvals … They move tons of ATF …No one knows.... They can probably negotiate a flat rate based on historical sales or the license holder might just charge a fee per "unit" (or volume). A lot of people say this is why Amsoil products aren't "licensed" for any application (maybe some products are ??
Yeah..... Sure Hall. You'd trust everything wouldn't you ...
By the way.. Someone who knows light years more than you or I do about this whole subject... Read that person's post in this thread. This person I respect their knowledge way, way, way, way, way more than yours or mine on this subject.
I don't trust it yet....
Think about pharmacuetical drugs.....
Tested a lot too right genius ????
How many get pulled after there are serious negative health results with people taking them for years after FDA approval ???
I know of one first hand.... A MS drug.... Got pulled.... One that I had thought about taking. And it was tested too..... A whole lot... Whoopsy.... Guess that magical testing missed something didn't it...
No difference here....
Use your common sense... You have it. I know you do.
You have a very good number of really good posts on here that demonstrate that.
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MolaKule
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Here is something even more confusing.
In many autoparts stores they are selling the Valvoline MaxLife ATF with the same type and color of bottling and almost the same labeling except:
"Suitable for use in over 90% of vehicles"
"Full Synthetic Multi-Vehicle"
"Recommended for Dexron VI, Mercon LV, Dex/Merc, and many other Applications." This is Valvoline's part number is 773775 for 3.78L or 1 gallon.
The OP's part numbers for the Multi-multi-vehicle version is 822421 for the 1L bottle and 786953 for the 5L container.
In many autoparts stores they are selling the Valvoline MaxLife ATF with the same type and color of bottling and almost the same labeling except:
"Suitable for use in over 90% of vehicles"
"Full Synthetic Multi-Vehicle"
"Recommended for Dexron VI, Mercon LV, Dex/Merc, and many other Applications." This is Valvoline's part number is 773775 for 3.78L or 1 gallon.
The OP's part numbers for the Multi-multi-vehicle version is 822421 for the 1L bottle and 786953 for the 5L container.
MolaKule
Staff member
If, for example, one wants application specific CVT fluids, here are some examples found on the Interweb:
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p...HOor7C_NjmesyLWbyshoC5jIQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds Part Number 876133
https://amsoilcontent.com/ams/lit/databulletins/g3273.pdf Part Number CVTQT-EA
https://www.redlineoil.com/Content/files/tech/NON-SLIP_CVT_PROD_INFO_2021.pdf 30805 - Part Number Non-Slip CVT - 1 gallon
https://www.eneos.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/PDS-of-ENEOS-ECO-CVT-FLUID_r.11-22-16.pdf A JPX Nippon Oil and Energy CVTF
https://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/...74D1061802586AF0055100A/$File/bpxe-9rv9fp.pdf Castrol Transmax CVT
etc., etc.
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p...HOor7C_NjmesyLWbyshoC5jIQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds Part Number 876133
https://amsoilcontent.com/ams/lit/databulletins/g3273.pdf Part Number CVTQT-EA
https://www.redlineoil.com/Content/files/tech/NON-SLIP_CVT_PROD_INFO_2021.pdf 30805 - Part Number Non-Slip CVT - 1 gallon
https://www.eneos.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/PDS-of-ENEOS-ECO-CVT-FLUID_r.11-22-16.pdf A JPX Nippon Oil and Energy CVTF
https://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/...74D1061802586AF0055100A/$File/bpxe-9rv9fp.pdf Castrol Transmax CVT
etc., etc.
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Spotted at the local O’Reilly. I did a spill and fill on a Lexus with Amazon-sourced ML ATF with the old labeling. Used the new label since I was a few ounces short.
I just used 11.5 quarts for a fluid exchange on a 311,000 mile, 2000 Avalon that calls for Dexron. There is no mention of CVT compatibility on the label, but judging by this date code, I was using the new formulation.
No issues to report, but the old fluid may have been almost original. This new formula definitely lacks the pungent odor.
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Data sheet says only 5.9 cSt at 100°C and 28 cSt at 40°C. Lower than what normal, non-LV, ATF fluids had.
I am tempted to use it in Hyundai and Kia that require ATF SP-III where I previously used with great results Castrol Import Multi-vehicle with 7.4 cSt and 35 cSt respectively...
Another brand, Totachi, had for their SP-III, 7.24 cSt and 34.8 cSt.
Valvoline, on their Import Multi-vehicle have 6.9 cST and 36.3 cSt.
Castrol Transmax ATF/CVT has 7.1 cSt and 34.2 cSt.
Now, maybe I should keep looking for the Castrol Universal ATF?
I am tempted to use it in Hyundai and Kia that require ATF SP-III where I previously used with great results Castrol Import Multi-vehicle with 7.4 cSt and 35 cSt respectively...
Another brand, Totachi, had for their SP-III, 7.24 cSt and 34.8 cSt.
Valvoline, on their Import Multi-vehicle have 6.9 cST and 36.3 cSt.
Castrol Transmax ATF/CVT has 7.1 cSt and 34.2 cSt.
Now, maybe I should keep looking for the Castrol Universal ATF?
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Later: I found out at Walmart the Castrol Universal ATF and bought it. Better specs for my application.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-...tomatic-Transmission-Fluid-1-Gallon/641751153
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-...tomatic-Transmission-Fluid-1-Gallon/641751153
"The world turned upside down." Hamilton.
Looks like P66 is going this way too:
phillips66lubricants.com
VERSATRANS® CVT PLUS FLUID - Phillips 66 Lubricants
This premium quality, full-synthetic transmission fluid is specifically designed for use in passenger cars and trucks with belt- and chain-driven continuously variable transmissions, as well as step-type automatic transmissions. It’s engineered with unique frictional properties required for...
phillips66lubricants.com
Without going back through the thread, I thought someone said that the "additive" maker blended up this concoction that works for ATs and CVTs. It sounded like a lot of fluid producers, even the big guys, used these additives and would end up offering super-universal fluids for ATs and CVTs too.
Most of these retail labels are just blenders - the additive companies do most of the heavy lifting.
They've been out of this for a few weeks at my local WM. Back when this thread was started I scoured Walmarts and bought 11 jugs (all I could find). Now, my local Walmart has restocked, but it's still the OG variant and hopefully will stay that way. I use it in everything, over many years, with "great results."
I only changed to Redline Non Slip as it and Honda OE are made by Kendall/P66. Meets the specs and it's better shear stability. Honda fluid costs more too for less performance.
Read the last sentence of that quote. They say that if I want an "OEM licensed product" to use Valvoline Mercon V. Interestingly, it states right on the front label of their Mercon V bottles "This is not a licensed Ford product". So much for transparency.
-40C viscosity spec has changed since 2022:
Brookfield Viscosity @ -40°C, cP
9,000 [2022-10-25]
11,000 [2023-06-05]
Brookfield Viscosity @ -40°C, cP
9,000 [2022-10-25]
11,000 [2023-06-05]
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