Valvoline Maxlife Antifreeze worth it?

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I'm finally getting around to changing over nearly every fluid in my '97 Saturn SW2 (205,564 mi. Unknown mileage/age of antifreeze.) and ran across a few oddball Valvoline products when researching their Durablend line.

Having had excellent luck with their MaxLife 5W/30 oil in the past, I was wondering if their MaxLife Antifreeze (Part #719009) is worth testing. As this is an all-make, all-model type, I've become somewhat hesitant after reading up a bit on this forum. She sat for nearly two years, so the water pump is needing lubrication after even 2k miles. Should I run some green with lube for the next coolant cycle and switch over?

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  • Only coolant with Alugard® Plus to ensure compatibility with all coolants
  • Developed to work with all automobiles and light duty trucks
  • Helps protect against cold weather freeze-ups and hot weather boil-overs
  • Lubricates gaskets and seals

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Keeping your higher mileage car on the road means doing everything you can to protect it from engine breakdown. MaxLife Antifreeze/Coolant helps extend the life of higher mileage vehicles by keeping your vehicle's engine temperature stable in all climate and driving conditions by transferring heat from the engine to the radiator. Over 60% of today’s vehicles on the road contain antifreeze with silicate.

The leading antifreeze brands claiming “all makes, all models” use a corrosion inhibitor package without silicate. These chemistries, when mixed together, may fail to protect the cooling system from rust and corrosion. MaxLife® Antifreeze is the only antifreeze to contain Alugard® Plus, a special additive which allows these chemistries to work together to provide maximum protection.


Thanks!
 
I dunno, my opinion of "high mileage" products is to not bother unless the car is experiencing problems.
 
How much does it cost?
Also, are they claiming that this product contains silicates or is silicate free?
Probably a good product, as are all of those Ashland applies the Maxlife label to.
 
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Originally Posted By: dparm
I dunno, my opinion of "high mileage" products is to not bother unless the car is experiencing problems.

Outside of oil, I'd normally agree. I like how Valvoline has ran for me in the past and my daily roundtrip commute is soon to become about 110 mi of alpine highway and several passes. As such, products that protect more than the norm are desirable so I can keep her running well over 300k.
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
How much does it cost?
Also, are they claiming that this product contains silicates or is silicate free?

It's about $20.50/gal concentrate on Amazon...
It does contain silicate, so this is partially why I was wondering.
 
Originally Posted By: sayjac
The link should help with your decision.

Ah, thank you!

It led me to this thread < http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/2491912 > that further extrapolated that it's not a 2EHA coolant and contains silicates, phosphates, borates, and nitrates. If I read it correctly, it seems that the nitrate level is not up to par for proper diesel protection in some cases though.
 
Originally Posted By: 71Chevyguy
Do you have Dex-Cool in there now? I always stuck to Dex-Cool in my SL2 that I used to have and didn't have any issues with it at all.

What has been added was DexCool. I can't remember if I bought her with Green or Yellow coolant though. May be a mix at this time.

I'd really not worry too much about it, but the water pump's squeal (no leaking) upon getting her back on the road has me somewhat worried for longevity with even a lubricant added with this next cycle.
 
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The leading antifreeze brands claiming “all makes, all models” use a corrosion inhibitor package without silicate. These chemistries, when mixed together, may fail to protect the cooling system from rust and corrosion.


Really! What a ludicrous thing for them to say.
 
Originally Posted By: 71Chevyguy
Do you have Dex-Cool in there now? I always stuck to Dex-Cool in my SL2 that I used to have and didn't have any issues with it at all.


It works with dex cool thats what the special additive is ** ALUGAURD **

read the PDF

http://www.jonesoilinc.com/pdf/2013-22.pdf

However for my Honda.. I used Honda Blue Type 2 50/50 Pre mixed from dealer.

but look at the PDF its very interesting.

also its non-silicate
 
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
How much does it cost?
Also, are they claiming that this product contains silicates or is silicate free?
Probably a good product, as are all of those Ashland applies the Maxlife label to.


I haven't looked locally but I'd imagine its probably in the $15-$20/gallon price range. Ebay has it for $12.59 +$5 shipping. It looks interesting to me. If it's as good as their ATF I'd give it a try after a little more research.
 
Originally Posted By: David1
...also its non-silicate

Hunh??? Where exactly do you see that written? Not in pdf link for sure.

And all the information linked in this thread and straight from Ashland says it's a silicate based AF. It's intended most for use in older IAT original green AF or alternatively HOAT systems. But more so the former as opposed to the latter imo.
 
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
How much does it cost?
Also, are they claiming that this product contains silicates or is silicate free?
Probably a good product, as are all of those Ashland applies the Maxlife label to.


I haven't looked locally but I'd imagine its probably in the $15-$20/gallon price range. Ebay has it for $12.59 +$5 shipping. It looks interesting to me. If it's as good as their ATF I'd give it a try after a little more research.


Vavoline has so many HIGH MILAGE / MAXX LIFE PRODUCTS now...

I even saw Valvoline Maxx life fuel system cleaner


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I mean what is next??? Maxx LIFE Brake Fluid

Not saying maxx life products are bad.. but sheeesh they have maxx life everthing.

soon it will be MAXX LIFE Windshield washer fluid
 
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
Just flush it with Distilled water and convert it to Zerex G05.


What would the benefits and downsides to the usage of a HOAT in a GM vehicle? As there's a lot of misinformation about DexCool, my lack of knowledge in this area extremely great.

Thank you for the bringing up of this suggestion either way; it prompted the right query for as to how to flush out the system.
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Originally Posted By: David1
Vavoline has so many HIGH MILAGE / MAXX LIFE PRODUCTS now...

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I mean what is next??? Maxx LIFE Brake Fluid

Not saying maxx life products are bad.. but sheeesh they have maxx life everthing.

soon it will be MAXX LIFE Windshield washer fluid

Market ALL the products! :p

They do have some benefits, but I'm honestly looking at moving away from Valvoline the more that I look at fleet-grade products...
 
I just don't see the point, unless something other than Dexcool was added to the system at some time. Pump lubricant? Things like Redline Water Wetter are made for lubricating water pumps in addition to other functions.

If you have a failing pump, the bearings could seize, and then destroy the drive belt. That is a risk not worth taking.

I would just get ready to replace the old water pump, then when changing the coolant, use Dexcool, or some generic 2-EH coolant.
 
Originally Posted By: artificialist
I just don't see the point, unless something other than Dexcool was added to the system at some time.

That is a very good question...

Originally Posted By: artificialist
If you have a failing pump, the bearings could seize, and then destroy the drive belt. That is a risk not worth taking.

Yeah... I'm going to simply flush it pure and replace it this weekend if possible. Even though it's not a timing belt, the last thing I want is a seized water pump out of cell reception.

Thank you for the thoughts.
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Wondering what you've decided to use? Topic'd MaxLife looks most similar to a type of original green. And contrary to the misinformation posted by one poster, it clearly has silicates like original green, though I suspect it's a low silicate formula, and no 2eha.

I'm not sure what's been used or what's in it now but with a complete flush most of the AF's mentioned should work. DexCool, generic all makes models Dexclones, G-05 even Peak Global Lifetime would be a good option imo. I'm thinking it came with DexCool though. Even the MaxLife, though I don't see it as anything special and it would be down the list of choices.

As for flush, if you don't want to mess with block drain which can be a pain, a distilled water flush series should work fine. In a Saturn shouldn't take much distilled till it runs relatively clear, and distilled is inexpensive.
 
I'm honestly not quite sure. At the price of MaxLife, one could get green and a really nice additive for less. Seriously mulling over Schaeffer products right now, so if it can eliminate my transaxle stress whine, I may just throw their additive in for kicks and grins.

In regards to the flush, I'll be cycling out the old with distilled as you mentioned before replacing the pump and adding the coolant.
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