M moribundman Joined Jun 2, 2003 Messages 23,587 Sep 6, 2004 #1 API SL/SJ, ACEA A3/B3/B4, BMW LL01/98, VW502.00/505.00, MB229.3/229.1. Not too shabby.
M Motorbike Joined Nov 25, 2003 Messages 2,602 Location The Tropics of Antartica Sep 6, 2004 #2 Thats sounds like the description of the Maxlife Synthetic I read on a 5w30 Synpower bottle where it is supposed to meet ALL ACEA A's . I take that to include A3 . The Vi is 10.84 @ 100c though [ September 07, 2004, 07:07 AM: Message edited by: Motorbike ]
Thats sounds like the description of the Maxlife Synthetic I read on a 5w30 Synpower bottle where it is supposed to meet ALL ACEA A's . I take that to include A3 . The Vi is 10.84 @ 100c though [ September 07, 2004, 07:07 AM: Message edited by: Motorbike ]
M moribundman Thread starter Joined Jun 2, 2003 Messages 23,587 Sep 6, 2004 #3 I don't think one and the same oil can meet A1, A2, and A3 at the same time.
J jorton Joined Jul 4, 2003 Messages 3,118 Location San Antonio, TX Sep 6, 2004 #4 starburst? I would use a starburst oil in a newer engine.
M Motorbike Joined Nov 25, 2003 Messages 2,602 Location The Tropics of Antartica Sep 6, 2004 #5 quote: Originally posted by moribundman: I don't think one and the same oil can meet A1, A2, and A3 at the same time. Click to expand... That's why I posted what was on the bottle [ September 07, 2004, 07:38 AM: Message edited by: Motorbike ]
quote: Originally posted by moribundman: I don't think one and the same oil can meet A1, A2, and A3 at the same time. Click to expand... That's why I posted what was on the bottle [ September 07, 2004, 07:38 AM: Message edited by: Motorbike ]
M moribundman Thread starter Joined Jun 2, 2003 Messages 23,587 Sep 6, 2004 #6 Well, we must have been looking at different oils. Jorton, the starburst isn't the Holy Grail for me.
Well, we must have been looking at different oils. Jorton, the starburst isn't the Holy Grail for me.
M moribundman Thread starter Joined Jun 2, 2003 Messages 23,587 Sep 6, 2004 #7 Okay I checked the Synpower ratings: SAE 5w30: Exceeds European ACEA A1/B1 and all requirements of ILSAC GF-3 for API Gasoline Engine Oils and meets Energy Conserving Standards. SAE 5w40: Exceeds European ACEA A3/B3 and all preceeding API Gasoline Engine Oils. SAE 10w30: Exceeds European ACEA A1/B1 and all requirements of ILSAC GF-3 for API Gasoline Engine Oils and meets Energy Conserving Standards. SAE 20w50: Exceeds European ACEA A3/B3 and all preceeding API Gasoline Engine Oils. I don't see any oil that meets any combination of A1, A2, and A3. It's simply impossible. What were you looking at?
Okay I checked the Synpower ratings: SAE 5w30: Exceeds European ACEA A1/B1 and all requirements of ILSAC GF-3 for API Gasoline Engine Oils and meets Energy Conserving Standards. SAE 5w40: Exceeds European ACEA A3/B3 and all preceeding API Gasoline Engine Oils. SAE 10w30: Exceeds European ACEA A1/B1 and all requirements of ILSAC GF-3 for API Gasoline Engine Oils and meets Energy Conserving Standards. SAE 20w50: Exceeds European ACEA A3/B3 and all preceeding API Gasoline Engine Oils. I don't see any oil that meets any combination of A1, A2, and A3. It's simply impossible. What were you looking at?
M Motorbike Joined Nov 25, 2003 Messages 2,602 Location The Tropics of Antartica Sep 6, 2004 #8 quote: Originally posted by moribundman: I don't see any oil that meets any combination of A1, A2, and A3. It's simply impossible. What were you looking at? Click to expand... I read it on the Synpower Bottle like my post said Not from a data sheet . The post does say that , correct ?
quote: Originally posted by moribundman: I don't see any oil that meets any combination of A1, A2, and A3. It's simply impossible. What were you looking at? Click to expand... I read it on the Synpower Bottle like my post said Not from a data sheet . The post does say that , correct ?
M moribundman Thread starter Joined Jun 2, 2003 Messages 23,587 Sep 6, 2004 #9 Okay, show me a picture of that bottle.
M Motorbike Joined Nov 25, 2003 Messages 2,602 Location The Tropics of Antartica Sep 6, 2004 #10 quote: Originally posted by Motorbike: quote: Originally posted by moribundman: I don't think one and the same oil can meet A1, A2, and A3 at the same time. Click to expand... That's why I posted what was on the bottle Click to expand... I guess you misunderstood why I posted this ? Lemme try again , I don't agree with their claims . Now, on to LL01 . Do you really think they can make LL01 with that formula " base oil " ?
quote: Originally posted by Motorbike: quote: Originally posted by moribundman: I don't think one and the same oil can meet A1, A2, and A3 at the same time. Click to expand... That's why I posted what was on the bottle Click to expand... I guess you misunderstood why I posted this ? Lemme try again , I don't agree with their claims . Now, on to LL01 . Do you really think they can make LL01 with that formula " base oil " ?
M moribundman Thread starter Joined Jun 2, 2003 Messages 23,587 Sep 6, 2004 #11 If Valvoline is making false statements, then we got them by the short hairs. Where's legal council when you need it? PS: Don't take me seriously right now. I overdosed on bratwurst sandwiches, I got a realy bad sunburn, and I haven't slept in 36 hours.
If Valvoline is making false statements, then we got them by the short hairs. Where's legal council when you need it? PS: Don't take me seriously right now. I overdosed on bratwurst sandwiches, I got a realy bad sunburn, and I haven't slept in 36 hours.
M Motorbike Joined Nov 25, 2003 Messages 2,602 Location The Tropics of Antartica Sep 6, 2004 #12 Sounds like a fun California weekend to me