using single weight oil in a passenger car

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Originally Posted By: BarkerMan
Pablo, that Amsoil ACD 30w looks like a very robust oil. How much does it cost and what sizes is it available in?


The retail prices are in the link.

ACD1G 1 gallon container $26.65 (Retail)
ACD04 (4) 1-gallon containers $105.00 (Retail)


ACD1G 1 gallon container $ 20.80 (Preferred Customer)
ACD04 (4) 1-gallon containers $ 79.20 (Preferred Customer)

Also comes in 30 gallon $532 PC.

55 gallon drums, and 275 gallon totes. PM for pricing on those.
 
I was typing whilst you posted - no problem!
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Originally Posted By: BarkerMan
When I did the bottom end, twice, just replacing the inserts I replaced the rings. They did not need to be replaced but since I hand things torn down I did it anyhow. I also replaced gaskets and seals. I made the head gaskets myself. I used aluminum stock and form fitted o-rings, some made of aluminum others made of stainless steel. I carefully formed them into the head gasket material. I used stainless steel o-rings for the cylinders and cut a circular groove in the cylinder head to match and give me the correct amount of crush. I learned how to do this kind of stuff when I worked in a shop in Los Angles as a high school kid for Ed Iskenderian in the late 50's. Ed was my hero when I was growing up. The only thing he could not teach me was how to smoke a big stinky cigar.

Rust has not been much of a problem. I treated the car right after I purchased it, drilled extra tiny drain holes in panels and also sprayed some glop into all those hidden spaces and used seam sealer to undercoat the body. Surface rust was attacked immediately and was not difficult to manage. The car has been repainted a couple of times. Also the upholstery was redone in various parts a couple of times. The sewing for the seats was easy to lean as I have a sail boat and used my sail making experience. The head liner tested my soul the first time I tried it and to finish it I took the car to an upholstery shop to do it right.

Corrosion in the cooling system is another matter. I installed a couple of zink alloy anodes in the cooling system and a screen in the upper cooling hose to catch stuff. I don't use antifreeze but instead use a mixture of distilled water and zink chromate solution. I'm still on my original radiator, but then I have never lived where it gets cold. When I have made trips to cold areas I have added a glycol solution and adjusted it with a hydrometer so I get the specific gravity correct. I went by a chart I created with sample solutions tested in my home freezer. I believe that the commercial antifreeze products are cheap junk and would only use one in an emergency but would be quick to get rid of it. You can think I'm crazy but my original radiator is doing just fine, than you.

I think the biggest difference in making a car last a long while is not the engine oil, it's treating the whole car, driving conditions and driving habits as a system. One failure of any of the major components can fail the whole system and this includes accidents, too. If you live in an area with extreme cold or you drive hard or make too many short trips you challenge is to get the best out of the situation and then the oil becomes more important. The reason the Wright brothers succeeded was because they divided up flight into systems and realized that the failure of just one system would prevent flight. Others placed great emphasis on one or two components of flight and failed. I think I've followed the Wright brothers system and figured out many of the components myself instead of just following common knowledge and for me it has worked.

Pablo, was it rust that ended you 510? Oh, and I'm glad you figured out that little coolant hose and did not get bit by having it fail.
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wow, lotta work. Why not use a Nissan or Fel-Pro headgasket?
Have you been on the Bluebirds (510) mailing list? I'm sure they'd love to read about your rebuild.
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Very cool, Isky made the Nissan Motorsports cams (L7, L9, etc) back in the day.

I think you're right using a HDEO (diesel oil) and 15W40 should be fine. Next oil change I'm going to try M1 5W40 or 10W40 in my 510.

I'd use a bottle of Redline Waterwetter in the radiator to help prevent corrosion.
 
None of these water conditioners are even close to zinc chromate in performance. It's illegal to sell zinc chromate for auto cooling systems but it's not illegal to use is if you dispose of it properly. That with an anode or two and a screen and my radiator has been there for 40 years with only some minor rework and re soldering of the top and bottom tanks.
 
You've never had your radiator recored for better cooling? My dime doesn't really like summer and I think I've got a bigger core already.

What do you mean by zinc chromate performance? It protects against corrosion well? Or it can help to lower your coolant temps?
I'd like to know more about the stuff.

I've only seen those zinc anodes in a Summit Racing catalog. Do many companies make them?
 
You have to mix your own zinc chromate solution. Remember my engine has been tuned for long life and gas mileage and produces less heat. I've done a lot of experiments with it. The cooling system is so clean that it cools much better and my engine experiences less thermal stress. Part of making my own head gaskets was to control coolant flow and optimize flow to the back cylinders. Also the magneto throws a spark that modern standard electronic systems can't match. They generate more voltage but this system has enough amperage to weld with. I run 10/1 mechanical compression but a cam that holds the intake open longer and has a lower running compression. This engine will not pass smog if it was required because of the higher temps in the combustion chamber. Smog testing is about passing an arbitrary test not good engine performance. I can concentrate on good performance becaue of the age of the car.
 
Mixing zinc chromate doesn't sound like some I want to do at home. Is it poisonous? I've got a kinda dopey dog...


L16? L18? L20b?
Closed chamber head + Zcar flattop pistons?
What are your cam specs?
How'd you reroute the coolant flow?
I'd love to hear more...

Magneto? And here I thought my SS dist and a Pertronix was nice.


Have you heard about the exhaust sniffers in LA? Freeway entrances are going to get a smog sniffer w/ a camera attached. If it reads your car polluting it snaps pic and you've got 90 days to get your car smogged, exempt or not. I'm not sure when this program is starting but I think it's soon.
 
Zinc chromate is not as bad for you dog as commercial anti-freeze that smells and tastes sweet. This stuff smells bad and probably tastes worse.

I think the sniffers test for CO, not oxides of nitrogen. My car is good on CO and CO2.

I did not reroute the flow exactly, I just opened the flow to the rear cylinders and restricted it to the fronts. I think that the stock and replacement head gaskets are a weak point. That is part of the reason I made my own.



An L16. Stock pistons with some work to unshroud the valves.
 
Zinc chromate is not as bad for you dog as commercial anti-freeze that smells and tastes sweet. This stuff smells bad and probably tastes worse.

I think the sniffers test for CO, not oxides of nitrogen. My car is good on CO and CO2.

I did not reroute the flow exactly, I just opened the flow to the rear cylinders and restricted it to the fronts. I think that the stock and replacement head gaskets are a weak point. That is part of the reason I made my own.



An L16. Stock pistons with some work to unshroud the valves.
 
Barkerman,
you need to add a lower hose thermostat ala John Bennet, an Aussie engineering genius who was able to coax 30MPG out of early 70s 350s (on propane), using his own designed inlet manifold, controlling coolant inlet temperature etc.

He couldn't get his engines passed for emissions, as the standard tester specified by the Transport Authority stated that his CO levels were ridiculous. They weren't, as he was burning with excess air, and had an oxygen rich exhaust. The standard monitor measured CO2, and inferred a CO level.

Had much the same argument when I was modifying engines (EGR directed at the idle ports of the carb, full vac advance at idle, selective charge heating etc.etc) Rego people weren't happy, but I was improving mileage by 40-50% over the ADR27A type emission controls...much less emmissions per kilometer.
 
I was asked about mileage and said I would check. Last tank, mixed driving 46.4 mpg but I realize it must be averaged over several tanks and I am now keeping a log. I use Marvel Mystery Oil at one ounce per 10 gallons of gas for top end lubrication. I use Chevron gas from a farmer's bulk tank for his work vehicles.
 
Thanks for the update, that is amazing. Shoot, I wish my neon could get that.

Do not sell this car. Run it to a million.
 
I'd love to hear more details about your engine and I'm sure most of the Bluebirds list would too.
What carb do you run? Hitachi? SU's?
I'm guessing you've already done a 5-spd swap? 200SX dogleg, truck, Zcar?
Are you willing to give out the cams specs?
 
This thread has gotten way off topic. Please continue discussions about the car and engine itself in the Mechanical/Maintenance forum or the General Automotive forum.
 
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