Ultrafine Teflon additive on engine oil

[kr_bitog]

What is the current product that offering ultrafine Teflon ?
ZMax, Slick, QMI ?
I just wonder why this is less popular compared to Moly, is it because teflon can not stick with too much moly in oil ?

 

[Johnny]

Current Slick 50 does not have teflon in it.

zMax has never had teflon in it.

QMI does have teflon in it.

Teflon will not stick whether there is moly or not. It just circulates with the oil.

 

[hate2work]

You don't want or need teflon in your oil.

 

[2oldtommy]

Dupont, makers of Teflon, have said that Teflon should not be used in motor oil. That's enough for me.FWIW--Oldtommy

 

[kr_bitog]

Just found this interesting link on Toyota website:
http://toyota.jp/after_service/car_care/yohin/engine_room/engineoil_tenka.html

or the translated one:
Translated

It looks quite promising

 

[tinmanSC]

Originally Posted By: 2oldtommy
Dupont, makers of Teflon, have said that Teflon should not be used in motor oil.


^truth^

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Look for something with Bucky Balls in it. That's supposed to be good - esp if you are a racer with a high specific output engine looking for that 1-2% power edge.

 

[powayroger]

tufoil

Been using it for years with no problem

 

[mongo161]

Originally Posted By: powayroger
tufoil

Been using it for years with no problem


+1....Ain't that the truth!

 

[ted s]

i peed in mine with no effects.

 

[unDummy]

Dupont is happy not to offend oil companies. They don't make any oils, do they? Have they ever showed any comparative data?

I've seen the effects of teflon lubes in machinery and can say its positive.

This is a good read:
Dupont PTFE

Tufoil is usually easy to find. Draw your own conclusion on whether it works or not.

 

[Johnny]

I've never seen a real need for it in an engine, but in industrial gear boxes and grease, I have seen it perform quite well, for the correct application.

 

[mongo161]

Yesterday afternoon, while there was a break in the weather, I changed out my Formula Shell after 6,800 miles and I’m now running 3 quarts of Pennzoil conventional, SM, GF-4 and 3 quarts of Pennzoil conventional, SN, and GF-5. I have also added my usual dose of 4-5 ounces of TufOil.

I’ve never had a problem with TufOil nor have I ever read a documented case of anyone with problems running TufOil.

DuPont, who has the rights to the name, “Teflon” did bring legal action against TufOil for using the name “Teflon” in its product. But after reading more into the reasoning behind the suit, it was because DuPont wanted to market its own engine and machinery lubrication and oil treatment products and have the exclusive rights to the name “Teflon” on the products.

It’s all about money and who is king of the hill.

So TufOil had to drop using the name “Teflon” and from what I’ve read, no longer uses the name in its products.

The primary reason I like TufOil is the add pack of Moly and other slick properties. I find that my engine runs smooth and acceleration is enhanced with TufOil.

Some people like Lubro Moly others like another product…..for me….I stick with what has worked for me and it’s made right here in the USA.

I’ve only seen it sold, on a retail level, at Large Truck Stops like T/A. Apparently, the large Diesel Truckers like to add it to their oil during their OCI.

Cheers to all….its really snowing hard here in Coney Island and we’re in for another episode of chaos in the streets, airports, rail lines and subways.

 

[mongo161]

There is no mention of Teflon in TufOil. They may be using a generic product name, PTFE, now for the substance, but the Copyright/patent name "Teflon" is not used in the product.

[non-sponsor link]

I doubt that DuPont will allow the name Teflon to appear on any item that is not a registered product in their own line of offerings. However, I bet they still supply PTFE to many sources outside of the DuPont line.

 

[mongo161]

Originally Posted By: tinmanSC
Originally Posted By: 2oldtommy
Dupont, makers of Teflon, have said that Teflon should not be used in motor oil.


^truth^


Do you have a link for that quote? Please post for all to read.

 

[POM]

I have used Tufoil for some years now in my -95 model 5 series BMW. With Tufoil here is less mechanical/engine noise and the valve lifter noise has totally disappeared, there must then be some reduced mechanical engine wear as I see it if there is less mechanical engine noise.
Here in the cold winter in Norway the engine starts/turns easier with added Tufoil.
Some here are afraid of additives containing Teflon/PTFE, it has been said that it can clog the oil filter.
In my BMW the oil filter is of the canister type, when it is changed it is easy to inspect the filter for clogging. I have seen no evidence of oil filter clogging when using Tufoil.
Tufoil is worth the money as I see it.

 

[unDummy]

Teflon is PTFE. Coke is cola. All that silly name brand trademarked...stuff to keep Dewpont happy.

QMI has PTFE in some of their products, not that you can find them anymore. Their website lists some.

I haven't seen the 'need' for ANY additives for the typical consumer. But, many that I've used work surprisingly well. I truly would like to see some real world test data that backs up any claim for or against these additives. Until then, its a personal choice with EVERY oil additive out there.

Graphite, moly, boron, ceramic, tungsten, PTFE, micro-lubricants, plant or animal esters, titanium, zinc, phosphorous, calcium, magnesium, lead, antimony...all serve their purposes. As long as there is ANY wear in an engine, there has to be something out there to eliminate or reduce that wear.
Problem is, the market is concentrating on MPG and emission life longevity.

I truly don't think that the teflon, ie PTFE, needs to stick. When your normal lubricant reaches its failure point, you hope that whatever "insert brand" is in abundance at the location to prevent damaging metal to metal contact.

I also have NEVER seen any sludge or filter clogging with ANY of the products that contained PTFE/Teflon. I hear of the hearsay scare stories. But, those engines would sludge with regular oil and neglect anyway. Too easy to blame something else.

BTW, tungsten has caught my interests. Its superior to moly, teflon, and graphite in greases and industrial lubes. Now, where can I get some nanoLub for my engine?

 

[OneEyeJack]

If you use Tufoil how would you ever know if it's doing anything useful without some expensive testing and a tear down?

 

[Shannow]

Using Nulon E10 (worn engine treatment) in a very worn Ford where I worked in the 80s, dropped oil consumption by at least 50%, and way less rattles...it didn't build up, as oil consumption went right back if a change didn't include E10.

Another product around that time (PMT, Permanent Motor Treatment) was mailorder, and reduced the oil consumption of my parents' R16 back to new levels (at around 250,000km), and stayed there...then after ordering it mail order, came the offers of erotic mags, manhood enhancement products etc.

 

[OneEyeJack]

If Teflon worked would you expect to find it as a component in an API cert engine oil? If it worked it might be a way to get through the API series of tests. It the past it appears that using it and expecting something good out of it was an act of faith not supported by anything one could measure.