UK: Cost of charging an electric car surges by 42% - with prices nearing the same as petrol

Where will this energy thing go? Who the heck knows. But Eastern Europe has taught us a lesson...
Maybe the solar will charge the Tesla during the day and the car will power the house at night?

We are at an inflection point.
 
It looks like the EU will not be getting any resumption of Nordstream gas delivery any time soon after someone blasted the pipelines somewhere under the Baltic Sea.
 
It looks like the EU will not be getting any resumption of Nordstream gas delivery any time soon after someone blasted the pipelines somewhere under the Baltic Sea.
Well, France should be fine, their nuke fleet is ramping back up. Germany is now finally considering keeping two reactors running. They will be burning copious amounts of coal. Now you know why Germany didn't decommission their coal plants...
 
Smart meters. See my post above for more details. They are on just about every single house in IL at this point, aside from maybe the chicago area. They have a different electricity provider up there than the rest of the state.
Wouldn't there have to be a separate meter (dedicated to the EV charger) for them to be able to tell that you're charging your EV?

A smart meter can shed load, and can record time of use for the energy, but I don't think it would know what the energy is being used for.
 
Wouldn't there have to be a separate meter (dedicated to the EV charger) for them to be able to tell that you're charging your EV?

A smart meter can shed load, and can record time of use for the energy, but I don't think it would know what the energy is being used for.
The smart charger installed by Tesla is connected via wifi to the utility.

If you sign up with the utility to enable their control of the charger, you get a discount on your rate.

They know when you’re charging and can shut it off via the charger.
 
My BIL charges his Tesla at public chargers when staying at his condo during the week, and at his house on the weekend. I like to think of his “fuel mileage” as miles per dollar”. Here is a excerpt on what a Tesla 3 standard range model can hold. It says 50 kWhr of purchased power is required to go 165 miles. This electric charge at home costs 10 cents ( U.S. equivalent) per kWh. 50 x .1 is $5.00 to go 165 miles. His “ mileage” is 33 miles per dollar.

Now compare this to a 30 mpg car. That fuel in the city of Vancouver, Canada would cost $5.60 USD per gallon, His “ mileage “ is 5.4 miles per dollar.

This is a odd situation with very expensive gas and very cheap hydro power.

Now substitute California power charges and his “mileage “ on his car becomes 50 x .4 which is $20 to go 165 miles or 8.25 miles per dollar. Since Vancouver and say, L.A. both have similar gas prices, his “ mileage “ with the ICE car would stay at 5.4 miles per dollar.

Now substitute what a public charger costs per kWhr in either California or in Vancouver, and you can see the public charger cost moves much closer to the ICE cost. Charging at home is still much cheaper than a ICE car on a dollar per mile basis, but charging at a public charger closes the gap.

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My BIL charges his Tesla at public chargers when staying at his condo during the week, and at his house on the weekend. I like to think of his “fuel mileage” as miles per dollar”. Here is a excerpt on what a Tesla 3 standard range model can hold. It says 50 kWhr of purchased power is required to go 165 miles. This electric charge at home costs 10 cents ( U.S. equivalent) per kWh. 50 x .1 is $5.00 to go 165 miles. His “ mileage” is 33 miles per dollar.

Now compare this to a 30 mpg car. That fuel in the city of Vancouver, Canada would cost $5.60 USD per gallon, His “ mileage “ is 5.4 miles per dollar.

This is a odd situation with very expensive gas and very cheap hydro power.

Now substitute California power charges and his “mileage “ on his car becomes 50 x .4 which is $20 to go 165 miles or 8.25 miles per dollar. Since Vancouver and say, L.A. both have similar gas prices, his “ mileage “ with the ICE car would stay at 5.4 miles per dollar.

Now substitute what a public charger costs per kWhr in either California or in Vancouver, and you can see the public charger cost moves much closer to the ICE cost. Charging at home is still much cheaper than a ICE car on a dollar per mile basis, but charging at a public charger closes the gap.

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You forgot CA, with $6 for regular as compared to solar panel or subsidized (or sometimes free) at work.
In my case, I am about to break even on my solar project. Going forward, the overall savings are staggering.
 
Where will this energy thing go? Who the heck knows. But Eastern Europe has taught us a lesson...
Maybe the solar will charge the Tesla during the day and the car will power the house at night?

We are at an inflection point.
Seems when warned they reacted with a good laugh … It’s pretty darn serious now …
 
You forgot CA, with $6 for regular as compared to solar panel or subsidized (or sometimes free) at work.
In my case, I am about to break even on my solar project. Going forward, the overall savings are staggering.


It looks like he included California.
 
It looks like he included California.
He did, but did only one side of the energy cost story. It appeared to say EV fuel costs were similar to ICE fuel costs in CA.
My point is, solar is a double win because you save on electricity in your home and as a vehicle fuel.
 
I was just at a L2 Chargepoint (USA), it is a lowest cost unit I found while on a trip.

My old PHEV car charges at 3.3kw
Cost $1.50 an hour and I need a bunch of app BS which will never happen

Car is 40mpg on gas or 3-5 miles per kwhr on EV

So 45 cents per kwhr
Or 3.699 / gallon for gas

$3.699 / 40mpg = $0.092 per mile
45 cents / 3 = 15 cents / mile (using hvac or heater)
45cents / 5 = 9 cents / mile (not heat, slow)

This is heating season, the best you can do in most of the us is pay more per mile for electricity, 50% more on up, unless you enjoy freezing or burning up.

Now if I charge at home…
 
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