Two hot retirement states, one expected, one surprise

A very good friend of mine just retired in West Virginia. Built a dream house with direct backing to a National Park. I suspect he paid from $800k- 1 million for the dream home on land boardering a national Park. A lot of money, yet every day is a vacation day.
Some would say sing "almost heaven" :unsure:
 
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Just go back to where you came! This is what happens when folks move south. They start to complain about everything. Why did you move there????
No thanks, would rather pound some of my manly bits flat with a wooden mallet before I do that. It was Northern VA. and that was a great place to grow up in the 60s and 70s (was there since I was 2). Inside the beltway and there was NOTHING about 5 miles west of that. Then the growth came. Went to work as a cop in my county in 1984 and there were just 3 traffic lights between me and my station. Took about 10 minutes. When I left in 2007, there were 17 and took about 35-40 minutes to get there. Now you can't drive anywhere. Not to mention taxes, climate, (natural and political), cost of living etc. And I'm not complaining about everything, just what happens to a really nice southern area that becomes what my former location is due to growth and not being able to keep up with it.

I am a boy of the south. I spent my summers growing up at my Grandmother's house about an hour west of here in Black Mountain NC. Learned to embrace and love the Southern way of life. We moved here to get away from all the nonsense in NoVa. and followed my in-laws here to keep my son (and us) close to them. Very excited about moving/living here and it has been a great place to raise our son. Southern living is where it's at due to the basically sunny attitude of good ole folks down here, weather, beautiful landscapes, and relative lower cost of living. So, again, I am not complaining about everything, just all the crap that happens when everyone moves here and spoils things. This is why I will move FURTHER south, and not necessarily where everyone else is going.
 
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I was in Waynesville/Lake Junaluska recently, it's an area I could get used to.
Been there many times with my wife on our motorcycle! We actually stayed over one night at the Lake Junaluska retreat. Love it up there, the ENTIRE region, great trip from Central SC
At the same time, we also love the coast, so two hour ride from Central SC to the coast was another benefit.

After 16 years, we moved to the North Carolina Coast so not so sure I will be up that way again, will miss it made that run for well over a decade every year and at the same time enjoying the lifestyle here being we grew up and spent most of out adult life on the coast of Long Island, this area has the beaches, so good boating. MUCH LOWER cost and congestion, friendly unstressed population too.
 
I was in Waynesville/Lake Junaluska recently, it's an area I could get used to.
It has become incredibly expensive to live there. Decades of wealthy retirees have resulted in an increase in prices for everything. It's turning into Florida where the regions economy is tailored towards wealthy retirees.
 
I've been in different parts of West Virginia. The state has a lot of natural beauty but lots and lots of people live away from any sort of decent shopping and restaurants. Lots of people live with junk on their property and unoccupied junk mobile homes that need scrapped.
"Yard Art" Arkansas has plenty of outdoor art of their own.
 
At one point WV was considering doing away with state income tax. They didn't, and I suspect it's because they know that they would be overrun with people from everywhere if they did.
 
At one point WV was considering doing away with state income tax. They didn't, and I suspect it's because they know that they would be overrun with people from everywhere if they did.

They can look to TN for how that will work out.
 
Low cost of living makes it an easy choice for retirees. It's a very beautiful state but I'd never move there, not that my state much better in other categories. Rampant meth and heroin use and I'd probably be lynched.
 
I've been in different parts of West Virginia. The state has a lot of natural beauty but lots and lots of people live away from any sort of decent shopping and restaurants. Lots of people live with junk on their property and unoccupied junk mobile homes that need scrapped.
Thats a sterotype that I am sure WVa is trying to rid itself of. That exists in almost every state. Shopping and the like is easily accessible in nearby metro areas surrounding WVA, like Pittsburg and DC, if necessary.
 
I am now amongst the throngs of retirees who are here in SC, but have lived here for more than 17 years. Its getting crowded. Very crowded. And it's not as cheap as that article makes out. Yes, no SS tax, but only first 15K of a pension or IRA is exempt from taxes. And larger metro areas in the state have high higher property taxes, including vehicles of most all types. Most of those larger areas have also been instituting incremental "penny taxes", in addition to a supplemental gas tax, to aid road construction, repair and maintenance. It ain't going to the roads, I can tell you that. SC has one of the most abysmal infrastructure and road system of most any state I been in. All of the growth with no increase in capacity just aggravates an already dire situation. Our county even has an additional "prepared food" (think any restaurant or fast food) tax of 10%. Then we have the utilities. Duke Power is the major player down here and they basically rob folks. I live in the Upstate and in Greenville County. The water is great, but expensive. And sewer. And reclamation. And if you live is a municipality, you pay it all over again. Yes, we have a beautiful state. Mountains on one side, with awesome beach/coast on the other. Weather is good, with mostly mild winters. But hot and humid summers. You definately pay for it, one way or another. Nice place, but I'm headed to AL.

I agree with you about the roads in the Greenville, SC area. They are not in great shape.

I was looking around this region as a possible retirement location.
 
I've been in different parts of West Virginia. The state has a lot of natural beauty but lots and lots of people live away from any sort of decent shopping and restaurants. Lots of people live with junk on their property and unoccupied junk mobile homes that need scrapped.
True. There's no zoning in a lot of areas. I'm in eastern WV. It's close to Winchester, Va where there is great medical care. All the smaller communities have a hospital that's affiliated with Winchester Medical center. You can, as I do, live out away from the trailers and junk in the yards. There are trade-offs if you want to live in peace and quiet. I spent too many years in No. Va. which is like a foreign country these days. Property taxes are not bad and the sales tax is 6.5%. Gas is 50-70cents hight than in Va 20 miles away.
 
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