It is spec for it, but did you read prior posts and UOA for 2.0t Honda engine that show significant viscosity drop in few thousand miles due to dilution? The 0w30 in this engine will have the same viscosity as 0w20 after few thousand miles.
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I was just answering a question on why not run a 30 or 40 weight with oil temps being under 100C. At 60C an average 40 weight is double the viscosity of a 20 weight. So i really don't know what you are talking about.
Not once did I say thinner or heavier is better. Obviously a higher hths will have better protection.
Sure thing Zed.
87 AKI in US = 91 RON in Europe...same fuel.
You are correct, but if you actually read my comment, I said that if you convert the RON from UK to AKI in the states, its 91 US OCTANE. Here is a screenshot from the eu manual for a camry. 95 RON is 91 octane, which is premium fuel in the US. This is a standard a25a naturally aspirated 4 cylinder.
Same with oil. In the EU, if you can't get 0w16 toyota oil, you MUST use higher grade oils. Not in the US, where they do not care.
I guess because people in the US have extra money from cheap fuel they can afford engine replacements? *****
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Your comment (post 22) that I quoted didn't say that...I found the other one further along where you clarified that you had converted it. Got it - so yes, 91 in Euro, 87 here apples to apples units.
For your use case, I would run Mobil 1 5W-30 ESP with it's HTHS = 3.5.
My bad then, I think I mentioned that I compared RON vs AKI. But yeah, theres the data. We are being messed with by the manufacturer lol
We are? How?
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They are the same engine dude.... Face palm
Fxs simply means it's battery assisted. It's also detuned to like 160-170hp... You why would the detuned version need 91 octane and the 205hp version need 87.
Logic
You make no sense?
You did not answered the question.
I am aware the FXS is battery assisted as I had stated it is a hybrid.
The hybrid is 14.1:1 compression ratio, rated at 208 hp.
The ICE variant is 13.1:1 compression ratio rated at 203-206 depending on the trim.
Where are you getting your information from?
Yeah, not sure on that stuff he is going on about. Any car offered in the U.S. can and does operate safely and efficiently on the min. required octane rating fuel - it's really that simple. Any potential performance and efficiency gains running higher octane fuels, while possible, is often minimal and will not make up for the additional cost/gal going from 87 to 91/93 "premium" gas (w/r to the mpg/efficiency discussion). You only are gaining additional power through additional timing advance/knock resistance and that isn't a guarantee that you even have that on 87 but many cars will see a slight increase in power at the higher end/WOT running higher octane fuels especially turbo engines - compression ratio in a DI engine is less of an indicator of this as that is one advantage of DI - allows higher efficiency without the need to run premium gas (my Focus is this way...13:1:1 or thereabouts ran happily on 87 before I tuned it to run 93). This is beat to a pulp on BITOG but folks still think there is a conspiracy in the U.S. to run 87.
Yes, the FXS makes a totoal of 208HP combined with half coming from the electric motor. Look at my sig, I own nothing but toyotas so I know what I am talking about and have taken apart more toyota engines than you can count on a couple of hands. The hybrid engine is detuned.
This is straight from toyota "If the engine operates alone, the Camry Hybrid provides 176 horsepower and 163 lb-ft of torque."
Enjoy. Learn how a hybrid works before talking.
Besides, the horsepower makes zero difference to oil that you should use since the entire engine is LITERALLY THE SAME part for part until you reach the flywheel/torque converter.
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I never said anything about gaining power. jesus how dense can people be these days, no offense but can you please go back and look at the actual manual from toyota that I attached.
The conspiracy is called pricing. And the public can be manipulated using USD more than nuclear war.
Mods, ban me all you want but instead of focusing on language, focus on misinformation instead. At least I provide sources and data. But these two idiots are actually more dense than a black hole.
Right. The camry is an Akinston cycle engine. The compression ratio is dynamic, that is how it achieve its efficiency and able to run lower octane.
Can you share where you cited your information?
Why dont you go and do your due diligence instead of trolling on the internet by trying to disprove facts after I have given evidence?
No, I won't give you anything more. Screw off.
Toyota Camry (XV70) - Wikipedia
I will not tolerate your passive aggressiveness. "Don't be an a-hole"? Go read your original passive aggressive BS. You literally stare at facts and go "nope" I am idiot i will not agree. I am calling you out right here right now as a passive aggressive factless troll.
Another forum full of self righteous trolls that never bring any proof, lab data, links, screenshots, and still say "source bro".
There is no conspiracy. That's the part that drags the conversation into a black hole.
