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I am sorry to hear this happened to you. It is almost always young punk thug wanna-be's who break into cars, especially when only the stereo or other easily accessible audio components are taken. Punks have no use for your tools, CD's or other stuff that might be in the truck. It may have also been crack heads or dope fiends trying to steal something they could easily sell for drug money. Keep an eye open for your radio at the local pawn shops, ebay and Craigslist.

Best thing to do is replace the radio with a detachable face unit, and take the face off every night when you park the truck in the apartment parking lot. As others have said, the radio is not much good without the faceplate, however faceplates can be had on ebay and other sites for cheap. And even a radio without a faceplate can be sold to the right person or pawn shop for as little as 10 bucks, which can still be enough to buy drugs or alcohol.

Tint your windows to the maximum legal darkness limits where you live. Even dirt bag punks can't steal what they can't see. Plus the tint makes it a lot harder to break the glass and get into the truck, but it won't stop a punk that knows how to use a Slim Jim.

Get a good car alarm, something that at least will go off if the doors are opened. It is also a good idea to add a switch to trigger the alarm if the hood is pried open if the punks have the brain cells and/or time to open the hood and cut the battery or siren wires. A sealed mercury tilt switch on the bottom side of the hood is a lot better and more reliable than a traditional plunger style pin switch. Hide the alarm siren where the dirt bags can't find it but you can still hear it. Get the loudest siren you can find, or maybe just double or triple up on sirens, plus wire in a relay on the siren output from the alarm to also trigger the horn. If you really want to make some noise, add in a set of air horns under the hood, wired to go off when the alarm is triggered. You can also mount a good loud siren inside the cab, so if the punks try to get your stuff even while the alarm is going off, maybe the interior siren would be loud enough to drive them away. Also when you add multiple sirens or trigger the truck's horn, it will make your alarm very easy to distinguish from all of the other alarms in the parking lot that no one ever pays any attention to anyway.

The idea with the alarm is not to stop thefts; if punks and dope addicts want to steal your stuff, they will. All they need is a baseball bat or a brick to break the window and a few minutes to take what they want. The alarm's purpose is to alert you or maybe a neighbor that might be willing to help monitor your truck in the event of another break-in. Hopefully the alarm will either scare the punks away or give you sufficient warning so you can get outside and take care of the situation by whatever means you think is necessary.

You can also interface your alarm with the factory power door locks, or you can add aftermarket door lock actuators if you only have manual door locks. That way you know if the alarm is on, the truck is locked.

Short of letting a pit bull, doberman or a good police service type dog sleep in the truck every night, these are a few things you can do to help stop punks, dirtbags and dope heads from stealing your stuff.
 
Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl

Also, take your face plate out of the truck at night. A head unit isn't much good to a thief if they have to find a face plate for it.


one would think that, but i had an experience in '99 that says otherwise. i still have that faceplate some where...(It was still in the little pouch on front of seat when i picked car up from impound)
course they also got a couple binders w/ about a grand worth of Cd's....I KNOW...i was young and stupid back then.
 
Originally Posted By: DinoLover
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
My aunt gave me this lecture today on how guns are bad and I should just let them take the stuff instead of causing violence. She is a liberal crazy as you can get! I'm exactly the opposite
I wouldn't want to hurt anyone but given the option between my stuff being taken and shooting someone
I'm going to shoot them . She's never really worked she lives off of her uncle/ husband. Not blood related just by marriage but still very wrong. Its easy for someone who hasn't ever worked to say just give them your stuff.


Maybe she values your life more than your possessions and isn't articulating it too good. You may feel differently. Either way it's a personal preference. Doesn't have to be right or wrong. I would say that it's possibly nice that you have a non blood relative who may care for you more than you realize.


DinoLover, in a way you're reinforcing chevyboy14's point. I'f she's never had to work for a living then she doesn't understand that his posessions could be a part of his life.

Correct me if I'm wrong, chevyboy, but I'm assuming you work for your money, right? Did every dollar you earned cost a little bit of your time, a bit of your life? Does that include the dollars you spent on things that were taken from you? When someone stole from you, didn't they take a little bit of your life away?

That's the way I look at it and I'm about as liberal as they come. One can be liberal without sympathizing with criminals.
 
If any of the stereo was aftermarket, and you have serial numbers, go to the police station and file a report. They'll check any stolen property that they receive against the serial number database and you might get some stuff back. Also, if you see your stuff in another car in the complex, or in a pawn shop, etc, you can call the police and they'll check and give it back tyo you if the numbers match.



The following info was checked last summer and verified by a few PD officers. Something might have changed this year but I don't think anything did.

- In Texas, someone comes in the house. You can shoot.
- Someone threatens you on your property (or pretty much anywhere) with a deadly weapon, SHOOT
- DURING THE DAY, someone stealing your property can be shot.
- DURING THE DAY, someone running off with your posessions in the hands, you can shoot. Even if they drop it you can shoot.
- AT NIGHT, all of the above applies, EXCEPT, you can't shoot them in the back if they are running away and are NOT carrying any of your posessions. So you you point and they drop the item and keep running you can't shoot.
 
Originally Posted By: yonyon
DinoLover, in a way you're reinforcing chevyboy14's point. I'f she's never had to work for a living then she doesn't understand that his posessions could be a part of his life.

Correct me if I'm wrong, chevyboy, but I'm assuming you work for your money, right? Did every dollar you earned cost a little bit of your time, a bit of your life? Does that include the dollars you spent on things that were taken from you? When someone stole from you, didn't they take a little bit of your life away?

That's the way I look at it and I'm about as liberal as they come. One can be liberal without sympathizing with criminals.


Having sympathy for criminals is definitely not what I am talking about.

Doesn't the insurance that you buy pay to replace the material posessions that are being taken? Why risk your life and health (and cynically I might say the possibility of being arrested and having to deal with that), when your material possessions can be easily replaced with no cost.

Now if you don't have insurance or something invaluable, one of a kind to you is in danger, or a loved one or indeed anybody innocent is in danger, then that's another matter. Also, if you live in a bad neighbourhood that you love and want to make a stand, then that's another matter.

But absent of those circumstances, it does not seem rational to me to put myself in danger, either immediate or down the road, for items that my insurance would replace.

I would think most parents, many relatives, and children would say, don't get hurt defending something that the insurance would replace. You are more important to me.
 
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Originally Posted By: DinoLover
Originally Posted By: yonyon
DinoLover, in a way you're reinforcing chevyboy14's point. I'f she's never had to work for a living then she doesn't understand that his posessions could be a part of his life.

Correct me if I'm wrong, chevyboy, but I'm assuming you work for your money, right? Did every dollar you earned cost a little bit of your time, a bit of your life? Does that include the dollars you spent on things that were taken from you? When someone stole from you, didn't they take a little bit of your life away?

That's the way I look at it and I'm about as liberal as they come. One can be liberal without sympathizing with criminals.


Having sympathy for criminals is definitely not what I am talking about.

Doesn't the insurance that you buy pay to replace the material posessions that are being taken? Why risk your life and health (and cynically I might say the prospect of being arrested and having to deal with that), when your material possessions can be easily replaced with no cost.

Now if you don't have insurance or something invaluable, one of a kind to you is in danger, or a loved one or indeed anybody innocent is in danger, then that's another matter. Also, if you live in a bad neighbourhood that you love and want to make a stand, then that's another matter.

But absent of those circumstances, it does not seem rational to me to put myself in danger, either immediate or down the road, for items that my insurance would replace.

I would think most parents, many relatives, and children would say, don't get hurt defending something that the insurance would replace. You are more important to me.


+1. For all the armchair John Waynes, there are a ton of ways that a thief could get the upper hand no matter how well armed/trained/prepared one is. There is a reason why cops get shot and killed, how someone confronting the situation is going to fare much better 100% of the time is beyond me. There is a LOT of risk, and if someone is killed, likely far more hassle in any state than filing insurance.

That said, it is very normal to feel harmed and wish bad, bad things upon the scum that did this kind of thing.

Its one thing if someone is coming into my home. Its another thing if an inanimate object is parked in an unsavory place (all but the finest apartments attract some number of "winners", and even the nice places have weird folks), where there is a level of risk no matter what.

I like guns, dispise the removal of our liberties, I am pro self-defense, pro carry, etc. But the situation would have to really be right for me to fire upon someone, even in a place like TX, if the circumstances were an auto breakin.
 
Seems to me if they are hanging through the back window of a truck and I have an automatic 22 they are the ones in danger.
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I understand what you all are saying . But yes i work for everything I have made what I have from hard work and correct morals. And I despise the fact that someone would take it. And the idea of letting them take my stuff and not stopping them disgusts me. If they are that big of scum to steal from people and break their belongings on purpose for personal gain I see no issue at all with putting a cap in there lower hind quarters. Besides that if its a stupid punk teen and good kiss in the butt with a 22 would be a darn good lesson. Having said that I'd rather people just not steal but we can't have everything. Heck i cant even have a stereo apparently.
 
Unfortunately if all you do is put a .22 in their hind quarters, likely you will be the one that has a lot of paying out to do.

My impression is that if you are going to protect your stuff, be complete with the protection. Otherwise youre going to loose out worse.

And no matter what, Ill bet in any state you will be arrested and have to go to some kind of a clearing trial at minimum... $$$.

And if you miss, you just messed up your truck worse than most thefts!
 
Don't worry I'm a pretty good shot. And I have a night vision scope probably wouldn't need it but I got one. That little 22 from my door to where the cars are will definetely make you stop in the butt it would kill you but you wouldn't go no where. That's the problem with gun laws there's so much [censored] nonsense if you actually do use obe. Its ridiculous. If someone is harming you or your belongings you sshould be able to shoot them. Shoot to kill or shoot to stop it shouldn't matter. And yea I could just use my 30 30 its a good lesson giver.
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I really wouldn't want to kill them just teach them a lesson through pain and misery.
 
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Unfortunately if all you do is put a .22 in their hind quarters, likely you will be the one that has a lot of paying out to do.

My impression is that if you are going to protect your stuff, be complete with the protection. Otherwise youre going to loose out worse.

And no matter what, Ill bet in any state you will be arrested and have to go to some kind of a clearing trial at minimum... $$$.

And if you miss, you just messed up your truck worse than most thefts!


Bingo. My understanding is that if you are going to shoot them, you don't shoot to maim.

Just my personal stance on it, but I wouldn't be putting a .22 in somebody's rear if I was in a situation that required lethal force. Close quarters? 12-gauge is likely the best choice. At range (like in Texas where some have stated you can shoot somebody breaking into your vehicle?) a .308 and shoot to kill.

However, I'm doubting a situation that requires lethal force would provide opportunity for a buttocks shot. If your life is in danger, you aren't going to be looking at their backside.
 
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
I really wouldn't want to kill them just teach them a lesson through pain and misery.


While we all have sympathy for what happened to you, your last sentence suggests to me that you feel justified in dispensing justice.

Perhaps many, if not all of us, have felt that way at one point or another, but we need to all respect the fact that the justice system is the only lawful way that punishment can be dispensed.
 
Well in some places it is lawful to shoot someone if they are stealing your stuff and according to the sheriff I talked to a little bit ago its lawful here as well. So if you shoot someone for stealing your stuff it is in fact lawful justice. The cops around here don't do anything. And it takes them half a day to respond.
 
Seems pretty lame to want to kill someone over a car stereo. I would just buy a security system for my car and file a claim on my insurance.
 
The truck is 20 years old it had liability. They don't cover stuff like that
And its not lame at all its justified you reap what you sew. If you steal your taking a risk and if the risk is getting shot that's the chance you have to take. Its not about the stereo its the principal I don't work hard for thugs to have nice things . I do it for me to have the nice things. Stealing is a sick immoral crime no matter what was taken and its about time people stand up. The law slaps these punks who are caught on that hand and let them go . Yet people who do drugs do hard time. Minors who steal should be forced to manual hard labor . If they don't work they don't get a meal every night. Of course feed them enough to sustain life but if punks learned to work for stuff and had real punishment they wouldn't do the [censored] they do. We are weak in this country we let the minors get away with anything. And the law is written on their side.
 
chevyboy14:

While others are only focusing on your specific situation it is about EVERYBODY that is being predated upon by the increasing numbers of criminal scum that think they have a good chance of getting away with theft.

The truth is that the only way these criminals might stop and think about stealing what is not theirs is if every time they attempt to steal they have a good chance of DYING in the process. I promise that even the druggies would stop and think if the extended castle law was made the rule of law in all states.

My thought is if you want to steal you die. Simple as that. Open season on thieves sounds like a good idea to me.

Most importantly if you are going to shoot a thief make sure you kill them. Make sure that you tell the authorities that you were getting into your car or had the purpose of being at the area of the vehicle, to drive it. You were surprised by the offender and you were in fear for your life so you needed to act and therefore didn't have the time to deliberate on the decision to fire. Heck keep a print free CLEAN knife handy so you can place it near the [censored] that was trying to steal.
 
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Antiqueshell: I agree with everything you just said! That is exactly right and I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way
 
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
Antiqueshell: I agree with everything you just said! That is exactly right and I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way


I'm not happy I have to say the things I did above BUT, the law is NOT on the side of the victim today and the criminals know this.

Now it is true that in some areas of the country the authorities are understanding and while they may not approve of lethal force in instances of theft if you simply state that you were in fear for your life they will simply drop the investigations because even they know that in the end the individual needs to be responsible for his well being and the protection of his property just make sure you have your plan of action together.
 
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
If your life is in danger, you aren't going to be looking at their backside.


You clearly need to work on your chilli recipe. It's a tad on the bland side.
 
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
Antiqueshell: I agree with everything you just said! That is exactly right and I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way


+1 ... I'm for that.
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Maybe time to go open carry.
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