For the last 10yrs I've owned a Toro self propelled mower that I could never warm up to, plus it cost some coin over the years with it's drive system that was sub-standard IMHO. So today I switched gears and purchased an old fashion push mower, Troy Bilt TB160 with a Honda 160cc engine. My lawn is under a 1/4 acre so it's no big deal. I think I'm off to a good start since after assembling and adding oil/fuel it started on the 1st pull!!!! If it means anything Consumer Reports (2020) rates this mower as 3rd at top of list. Honda was #1 & Cub Cadet #2. Thought I'd share.....