TRADE your gas car for EV ?

Guess what though.....

When your magical grid fails routinely...
Because the puff the magic dragon solar panels don't make enough power... Or the windmills stop turning due to high pressure building over head.... And the marijuana high champions who hate nuclear power think extremely low power density units can magically work in supplying many, many, many Twh of power to millions of people. ... Candles and kerosene laterns will be back in fashion.

Or there's a major storm like a hurricane....

People who have candles... Use them.

People who have Kerosene laterns use them too....

I know. Because that's what my mom used when we lost power when I was a kid.
+1 Lets not forget when solar panels get buried in snow and it stays cloudy for a few days, that's just another one a few more short comings. This going all EV pipe dream is still decades away. Lets not kill the oil industry, nuclear power, or ICE engines too soon.
 
Yes, but not yet.
1) Need more CCS DC fast chargers near me.
2) Need more lower priced w/higher range vehicle options. IONIQ 6 is the only thing I’d realistically buy right - and it’s not even available yet.
 
+1 Lets not forget when solar panels get buried in snow and it stays cloudy for a few days, that's just another one a few more short comings. This going all EV pipe dream is still decades away. Lets not kill the oil industry, nuclear power, or ICE engines too soon.
nope.
1. Depending on location, when it comes to snow cover. But here in CO, it is gone next day.
2. They make power when cloudy skies.

I got them this summer, and best decision. I am also making money from it.
 
nope.
1. Depending on location, when it comes to snow cover. But here in CO, it is gone next day.
2. They make power when cloudy skies.

I got them this summer, and best decision. I am also making money from it.
Operative words, depending and location. I recall the mess Texas was in with wind and solar screwing up due to weather. Regarding making money IIRC there are a few states and utility companies trying to cut back on that too. Here's CA's shot at it: INTERESTING READ. Bottom line there are problems associated with any of the electric power sources, but to think that wind and solar is foolproof would be a mistake. And to think the grid is ready for the all EV pipe dream is another mistake.
 
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Operative words, depending and location. I recall the mess Texas was in with wind and solar screwing up due to weather. Regarding making money IIRC there are a few states and utility companies trying to cut back on that too. Here's CA's shot at it: INTERESTING READ. Bottom line there are problems associated with any of the electric power sources, but to think that wind and solar is foolproof would be a mistake. And to think the grid is ready for the all EV pipe dream is another mistake.
It depends on location. Also, bcs. TX allows more solar generation than others (up to 300% than consumption) this summer that is what prevented blackouts during heatwave.

Why certain company is doing is specific to them. I am in prime spot for solar due to altitude and temperatures. We don’t have excessive heat which doesn’t create issues in the summer, in the winter we don’t have lingering cloud cover.
Las month I used 285kw/h and made around 790kw/h. Difference is going to my pocket.
Now, depending how much I can still save with converting leftover light bulbs from CFL to LED, I might replace gas water heater with electric or gas range and oven with electric. I can use rest of excess production for that, but cut gas consumption in that case.
 
nope.
1. Depending on location, when it comes to snow cover. But here in CO, it is gone next day.
2. They make power when cloudy skies.

I got them this summer, and best decision. I am also making money from it.
I could have written this post.
Of course I am in a great location for solar due to climate and high energy costs. And yes, contrary to common belief, solar generates on cloudy days.

And no snow...
 
Here's something people often overlook with solar, at least a buddy of mine did, and others in his area. He went all in years back [an early adopter perhaps] for solar, he thought the idea was great, saves the environment, and he'd be ringing the register. He lives in Queens, last summer he had some issues with squirrels building nests under the solar panels. His house with the attic is three stories high. He needed to hire an exterminator to get rid of them, the cost $3,000, no BS. Now he has to hire someone to put some kind of mesh or something under the solar panels, and get rid of pigeons that found their way under, for an additional expense. He is not the only person in his area with this problem. I wouldn't ask how long it will take with the savings from the solar to recover from that hit, many of us wouldn't live that long is my guess. His wife is sorry they went solar. I'd consider going with solar shingles if the price was right, but that would be about it.
 
I could have written this post.
Of course I am in a great location for solar due to climate and high energy costs. And yes, contrary to common belief, solar generates on cloudy days.

And no snow...
It should not have been overlooked! Solar company should offer critter protection. I did that add on: $800.
My neighbor came to me when he saw I am doing it and told me squirrels cut his line. They wanted $7,200 to fix. He sued, and paid $800.
 
It should not have been overlooked! Solar company should offer critter protection. I did that add on: $800.
My neighbor came to me when he saw I am doing it and told me squirrels cut his line. They wanted $7,200 to fix. He sued, and paid $800.
But it was, as were a few others in his area. Sue? You have to have someone to sue, the company that did his job is no longer around, and even if they were I'd be willing to bet they had an iron clad contract. NY is a whole different ballgame, especially when it comes to business.
 
But it was, as were a few others in his area. Sue? You have to have someone to sue, the company that did his job is no longer around, and even if they were I'd be willing to bet they had an iron clad contract. NY is a whole different ballgame, especially when it comes to business.
Sure. But you want solar to be perfect, while that is an issue with every single contractor that does other things. That doesn’t stop you having plumbing or garage door.
 
That has been a concern of mine, be it 100 year metal roofs or solar panels, does’t matter what the warranty is, if the company goes out of business. Skeptical me thinks that may be part of their business plan, go out before they have ant warranty claims.
 
That has been a concern of mine, be it 100 year metal roofs or solar panels, does’t matter what the warranty is, if the company goes out of business. Skeptical me thinks that may be part of their business plan, go out before they have ant warranty claims.
That is concern with everything.
I mean, builder of my house “forgot “ insulation in one of the walls and small attic above half bathroom.
 
That has been a concern of mine, be it 100 year metal roofs or solar panels, does’t matter what the warranty is, if the company goes out of business. Skeptical me thinks that may be part of their business plan, go out before they have ant warranty claims.
100 year warranty applies to first owner never next. So the plan works since most people sell or die before making a claim.
 
2. They make power when cloudy skies.
And yes, contrary to common belief, solar generates on cloudy days.
They, do, yes, but considerably less. Today was clear, but it's coming into winter, so output is lower. There is 478MW of installed capacity here:
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Peak output of 331MW; 69% of nameplate.

This was two days ago when it was overcast:
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Peak output of 123MW of 478MW; 25.7% of nameplate.

Productivity started at ~9AM and was gone by 5PM, cloudy or not.
 
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