TOYOTA OIL DRAIN PLUG GASKET
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Approx what torque are you using? I stop at about 25 lb ft and all's good.
I don't torque, go by feel. After almost 50 years, you get a feeling when to stop. Those Nissan washers are the BOMB ! There a PITA to get back off though, sometimes, especially if you have a customer who has been using the same washer over and over.
My question was approx how much torque are you using, by feel or whatever. Toyota washers are fine; there must be some other factor. Hundreds of millions have to have been successfully used over the years.
Regardless, good luck.
I own a new Toyota and love it. It is ashamed they can engineer and build engines capable of running over 300,000 miles with proper maintenance but are having problems with engine oil drain plugs and gaskets! LOL!
I haven't used or ordered these for my new Toyota yet, so I don't know if they are junk or not, but the plug is magnetic. I will post an Amazon link to both the plug and gaskets here, if you are interested. There is also this thing out there called a "Fumoto Valve" drain plug you can look up if you are interested.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YVKL6D...Z867P9ED7&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NF4Y9C...867P9ED7&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it
There is no problem to be solved. If the plug loosens up with a properly tightened drain plug and Genuine Toyota drain plug gasket, you need a new oil pan. It is that simple.
I'm not knocking Toyota oil pan washers at all. It's more of a probability that my old oil pans, ( 06' & 03' ), have warped a bit where the bolt seats on the pan. I have steel pans. I don't know what Toyota uses nowadays. Is it still steel, is it aluminum ? I can't answer that. Honda has been using aluminum pans for quite some time, other manufacturer's still use steel. Steel warps, bends over time. I am not the original owner of my 2 Toyota's. I don't know who's been under there. But, on a personal level, I found a solution. Using just plain 10mm aluminum crush washers work for MY particular situation. I put new drain bolts and these plain aluminum 10mm crush washers, and it worked. Just happy the pan threads are not stripped out. They are quite old. Yes Critic, I agree with you 110%. New pans will solve the problem.
I use the first regular copper washer (I don't use crush washers) I installed 7 years ago when I bought the car or the copper washer the last person installed before me. Always hand tighten the drain bolt and never had a problem with it on my 2AR-FE Camry engine.
Info from Toyota nation, I've never read on that site:
https://www.toyotanation.com/threads/oil-change-torque-specs-14-camry-se-2ar-fe-2-5-4cyl.1017378/
The OP probably over tighten the oil drain bolt and then started using a torque wrench. But it was too late because the oil pan thread was already stripped.
Info from Toyota nation, I've never read on that site:
https://www.toyotanation.com/threads/oil-change-torque-specs-14-camry-se-2ar-fe-2-5-4cyl.1017378/
The OP probably over tighten the oil drain bolt and then started using a torque wrench. But it was too late because the oil pan thread was already stripped.
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Glad to hear the plain copper washer works for you. The 10mm aluminum crush washer works for me. So, there are options out there. I remember as a teenager, I stripped the threads on my 351 Windsor oil pan. Went to the auto parts store, ( there was no internet back then, no you tube videos), and the guy behind the counter pointed me to the " Dorman Spin Rack " That's where I found those one use only rubber oil pan plugs. Bought a bunch of them, and that was that. They never leaked. I was happy. Didn't have the money to buy a replacement V-8 oil pan. Sold the car a year or so later with that rubber oil plug in the pan.
Man, you are probably right, but I bet that job is more than a $10.00 bill. It sucks.
JHZR2
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Steel bends and warps over time with regular care? Maybe if it gets hit. My fleet of old Mercedes Diesels that have had high mileage and use steel oil pans might disagree with this. They have zero issues and I’ve had some tight drain plugs in them.
What I have encountered though with Toyota were poorly made oil drain fittings in even the finest Toyota products such as the FJZ80 Land Cruiser AT drain pan. To me it’s as simple as that they allow poorly made drain plug fittings on their products. Not that some warp would deform fittings on their heaviest/thickest part.
Very good observation. I went back with new OE Toyota drain plugs., ( with the 10mm aluminum crush washers). If I encounter this problem again, I'll switch the brand of plug and see what happens.
