Toyota is doing fine

[USA1]

Originally Posted By: mechanicx
Well when one's purchase is based solely on what automotive media hacks tell you, then as long as the hacks keep recommendeding you'd keep buying.


...and here's an example...

http://moneywatch.bnet.com/economic-news/blog/cars-money/new-car-rankings-who-can-you-trust/118/?tag=col1;blog-river

 

[rszappa1]

Automaker March 2010 March 2009 Pct. chng. 3 month
2010 3 month
2009 Pct. chng.
BMW Group* 21,696 21,152 3% 55,129 51,325 7%
Chrysler Group LLC 92,623 101,001 -8% 234,215 247,208 -5%
Daimler AG** 20,711 17,362 19% 51,996 45,213 15%
Ford Motor Co.*** 183,425 131,102 40% 441,708 323,193 37%
General Motors**** 188,011 155,334 21% 475,861 409,702 16%
Honda (American)† 108,262 88,379 22% 256,412 230,985 11%
Hyundai Group†† 77,524 65,445 18% 188,205 164,747 14%
Isuzu - - -% - 165 -100%
Jaguar Land Rover 3,709 3,422 8% 9,091 8,596 6%
Maserati 189 119 59% 394 274 44%
Mazda 23,193 21,974 6% 55,941 53,795 4%
Mitsubishi 5,434 4,620 18% 13,623 13,834 -2%
Nissan††† 95,468 66,634 43% 228,229 174,767 31%
Porsche 1,905 1,749 9% 5,222 4,925 6%
Saab Spyker Automobile‡ 133 - -% 133 - -%
Subaru 23,785 16,249 46% 57,494 41,532 38%
Suzuki 2,246 7,981 -72% 5,661 15,131 -63%
Toyota‡‡ 186,863 132,801 41% 385,686 359,670 7%
VW‡‡‡ 30,868 22,254 39% 79,909 58,195 37%
Other (estimate) 294 306 -4% 882 918 -4%
TOTAL 1,066,339 857,884 24% 2,545,791 2,204,175 15%

Numbers in this table are calculated by Automotive News based on actual monthly sales reported by the manufacturers and may differ from numbers reported elsewhere.
Source: Automotive News Data Center
Note: Other includes estimates for Aston Martin, Ferrari, Lamborghini and Lotus
*Includes Mini and Rolls-Royce
**Includes Maybach, Mercedes-Benz and Smart
***Includes Volvo
****Includes Saab through February 2010
†Includes Honda Division and Acura
††Includes Hyundai and Kia
†††Includes Nissan Division and Infiniti
‡The sale of Saab was final on February 23, 2010
‡‡Includes Toyota Division, Lexus and Scion
‡‡‡Includes VW, Audi and Bentley

MARCH U.S. AUTO SALES
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[simple_gifts]

Of the 4 people in my family, 4 own a Toyota. It took about 3 consecutive GM's to lose faith in that company; with Toyota, it will take twice that many. (looking to scope out the Cruze tho)

 

[Steve S]

I can't believe people are buying G.M. and Chrysler. I was hoping Toyota sales would really drop because I am in the market for a forth car for the family and was thinking about a Corolla at a super good price.

 

[rszappa1]

They are buying Chryslers??????? Where do you see that.....

 

[carwreck]

It isn't just the media...

Some U.S. legislator hacks have made lots of money by pushing laws that are favorable to Toyota.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2010/feb/serious-conflicts-legislators-probing-toyota

 

[rszappa1]

and I am sure they just give the US companies heck along with the UAW....Remember the GOV owns two of them already and the other is very deep in debt right now....

 

[L_Sludger]

Despite the hit job by the media and the government, the people are not so easily fooled, it seems.

 

[L_Sludger]

Originally Posted By: USA1
Neither dead nor alive will I be found in a Toyota.
More people have died because of Ford safety faults than Toyota's safety faults over the past ten years.

 

[GMBoy]

Originally Posted By: Bryanccfshr
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
I think people are buying them because of the huge incentives, primarily.

The vehicles I like (4 Runner , Tacoma, FJ, Land Cruiser) Have no incentives and they are selling anyway.



But those models aren't effected by the recalls, if I recall correctly. I'd rather see a model by model breakdown of sales to see if the recall hurt those particular models.

 

[carwreck]

I suppose it is also possible that this entire thing has been a publicity stunt by Toyota. (kind of like when Britney "forgets" to wear underwear)

There are also some more possible theories in 2 episodes of "SOUTHPARK" (watch 911 and whale wars)

 

[Drew2000]

Of course Toyota is doing fine. There's always a huge market for the utterly bland, soulless driving experiance that Mr. and Mrs. Average American crave. Toyota delivers this in spades with their various models of transportation appliances.

 

[L_Sludger]

Originally Posted By: Drew2000
Of course Toyota is doing fine. There's always a huge market for the utterly bland, soulless driving experiance that Mr. and Mrs. Average American crave. Toyota delivers this in spades with their various models of transportation appliances.
because breaking down is the spice of life.

 

[rszappa1]

Jelous are weeeee....

 

[Autobahn88]

Originally Posted By: USA1
Neither dead nor alive will I be found in a Toyota. When the current superior quality and engineered Domestics prove themselves (since that's what apparently needs to be done to appease some folks) Toyota will be second class, and trust me, no one will forget the deaths and lies that came from that corporation; just like the Pinto gets brought up from "that crowd", the deaths and lies will be brought up by those that remember. The Volt is just around the corner, and will put the Prius firmly in paper bag car of destruction territory. The Fusion is an incredible car, the new Taurus is unbelievable, Equinox, Edge, Corvette, Camaro, Challenger etc. will put Toyota to shame, and be able to stop fully when the brakes are depressed overhead power lines or not! 8.5 MILLION RECALLS! How many have been fixed? How many more crashes will be heard on the news? Doing fine? How about the resale values on the cars they had to give away in order to make any sales? That's going to hurt them. Major leasing companies are dropping Toyota because no one wants one as a rental! GM has this week, and Ford will show on Thursday some great sales numbers. Screw Toyota, they lied to us in order to save some money, and it's indisputable, their quality is not what it once was. A GM 43% rise in sales is a lot more cars sold than Toyota's 40% rise; the figures for the second half of the month will show a fade in the Toyota sales. GM's Buick alone is up an incredible 74+%! The shedding of Pontiac and Saturn and the closing of unneccessary dealerships is making GM leaner and much more competitive, and Ford was never doing too bad to begin with! BE AMERICAN-BUY AMERICAN!


Thanks for this wonderfully insightful post. I think I will go and buy a Toyota just because of this post..

 

[Drew2000]

Originally Posted By: L_Sludger
Originally Posted By: Drew2000
Of course Toyota is doing fine. There's always a huge market for the utterly bland, soulless driving experiance that Mr. and Mrs. Average American crave. Toyota delivers this in spades with their various models of transportation appliances.
because breaking down is the spice of life.


Hardly. But thank goodness there's more to eat than just white bread.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Unfortunately most cars have poor driving dynamics - I used to work hard to seek out those that had "soul" and drove well. In the 80's: Chevy Citation X-11, VW Rabbit GTI, Dodge Omni GLH Turbo, Zastava GV, Porsche 944, Camaro Z28.

 

[brianl703]

Originally Posted By: Drew2000
Of course Toyota is doing fine. There's always a huge market for the utterly bland, soulless driving experiance that Mr. and Mrs. Average American crave. Toyota delivers this in spades with their various models of transportation appliances.


Might explain why I saw very few Toyotas in Germany when I was there 4 years ago...

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: brianl703
Originally Posted By: Drew2000
Of course Toyota is doing fine. There's always a huge market for the utterly bland, soulless driving experiance that Mr. and Mrs. Average American crave. Toyota delivers this in spades with their various models of transportation appliances.


Might explain why I saw very few Toyotas in Germany when I was there 4 years ago...


Percentage-wise, did you see a large cross-section of cars that weren't German?

 

[brianl703]

I saw more Fords and Hyundais than I did Toyotas.