Toyota camry Question

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I'm currently renting a 2018 Camry with 41K miles. The carpet in the driver side has holes worn in it, glove box hinge pin has broken out and has numerous rattles. The paint appears to be soft on the front end as there are impressions of deceased bugs imbedded in the paint both on the plastic and metal parts.
Is this normal for a Camry or is this just an odd occurrence? I rented one earlier this year with less than 5K on it and it had few if any quality build problems as far as rattles etc. and it got exceptional MPG although the paint on the front was suspect.
Anyone have experience with this model?
Thanks Smoky
 
Those are A LOT of miles on a 2018. I don't think an abused rental is a good way to judge the whole Camry line.
 
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Yeah ive had a few different rentals with 30,000kms (not even miles) that felt and seemed like they needed to be sent to a scrapyard. Where are you renting from that gives you a car with that much mileage?.. i hate when i get rentals with half that mileage. I had a Cavalier rental many years back..had maybe 28,000kms on it and everything was going bad. Just glad i made it home lol.
 
Originally Posted by Smoky14
I'm currently renting a 2018 Camry with 41K miles. The carpet in the driver side has holes worn in it, glove box hinge pin has broken out and has numerous rattles. The paint appears to be soft on the front end as there are impressions of deceased bugs imbedded in the paint both on the plastic and metal parts.
Is this normal for a Camry or is this just an odd occurrence? I rented one earlier this year with less than 5K on it and it had few if any quality build problems as far as rattles etc. and it got exceptional MPG although the paint on the front was suspect.
Anyone have experience with this model?
Thanks Smoky


I rent the Camry's all the time. I'm sorry to report that the 2018 Camry is substandard quality. It is noisy, unresponsive, made of less durable materials and simply starts looking old and used rather rapidly. I got a newer one, shared it with my boss, drove it 4000 miles and it looked trashed by the time we were done. Sure, we used it hard, but few vehicles degrade so rapidly. Of note, the dash really looked awful over time and was difficult to clean and make it look good.

The new Camry feels exactly like a Corolla from a few years ago. Noisy and cheap.

They do get fantastic real world highway MPG though. Better even than the Nissan Altima (my favorite cheap rental car)

By way of comparison, I get 36MPG with the Altima and 40 with the Camry (highway) But the Altima feels so much more refined and sporty. None of that throttle lag, and harsh engine noise.
 
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Originally Posted by Rolla07
Yeah ive had a few different rentals with 30,000kms (not even miles) that felt and seemed like they needed to be sent to a scrapyard. Where are you renting from that gives you a car with that much mileage?.. i hate when i get rentals with half that mileage. I had a Cavalier rental many years back..had maybe 28,000kms on it and everything was going bad. Just glad i made it home lol.

I have received rentals with 50K + from Enterprise. Rental car agencies have excellent pricing data on hand to determine the optimum time to retire a vehicle. Used car values are so high nowadays that rental fleets are keeping cars in service for a long time.
 
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Originally Posted by Rolla07
Yeah ive had a few different rentals with 30,000kms (not even miles) that felt and seemed like they needed to be sent to a scrapyard. Where are you renting from that gives you a car with that much mileage?.. i hate when i get rentals with half that mileage. I had a Cavalier rental many years back..had maybe 28,000kms on it and everything was going bad. Just glad i made it home lol.

I have received rentals with 50K + from Enterprise. Rental car agencies have excellent pricing data on hand to determine the optimum time to retire a vehicle. Used car values are so high nowadays that rental fleets are keeping cars in service for a long time.


they are? thought sedans and the like have plunged in value do to everybody and their mother wanting suv's and big boy trucks.
 
Originally Posted by The Critic
Originally Posted by Rolla07
Yeah ive had a few different rentals with 30,000kms (not even miles) that felt and seemed like they needed to be sent to a scrapyard. Where are you renting from that gives you a car with that much mileage?.. i hate when i get rentals with half that mileage. I had a Cavalier rental many years back..had maybe 28,000kms on it and everything was going bad. Just glad i made it home lol.

I have received rentals with 50K + from Enterprise. Rental car agencies have excellent pricing data on hand to determine the optimum time to retire a vehicle. Used car values are so high nowadays that rental fleets are keeping cars in service for a long time.


Is it the used car values or as an attempt to squeeze every penny out of the fleet?

Reason I ask is, many of the retired rental cars for sale that are 1-3yrs old, with miles at 50K or under go for about ~60% of what they would cost you or I new from what I've seen. Based on make/model of course.
 
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I rent the Camry's all the time. I'm sorry to report that the 2018 Camry is substandard quality. It is noisy, unresponsive, made of less durable materials and simply starts looking old and used rather rapidly. I got a newer one, shared it with my boss, drove it 4000 miles and it looked trashed by the time we were done. Sure, we used it hard, but few vehicles degrade so rapidly. Of note, the dash really looked awful over time and was difficult to clean and make it look good.

The new Camry feels exactly like a Corolla from a few years ago. Noisy and cheap.

They do get fantastic real world highway MPG though. Better even than the Nissan Altima (my favorite cheap rental car)

By way of comparison, I get 36MPG with the Altima and 40 with the Camry (highway) But the Altima feels so much more refined and sporty. None of that throttle lag, and harsh engine noise.


Interesting. Noisy and cheap? The 2018 Camry (hybrid SE) is probably the quietest car I have ever driven. On the freeway I was really impressed with how quiet it really is... And this is with the SE's 18" wheels and smaller sidewall tire.

Interior is great quality, don't really think it is cheap at all. How are you trying to clean the dash? I did car detailing as a hobby for a few years (and still do it, just far less) and something like Meguair's interior detailer with a microfiber is easy as can be and I have 0 issues with the interior looking fantastic afterward. The materials all seem really good to me... I wouldn't call it cheap, at all.

I did find the non-hybrids to drive a bit unresponsive, but the hybrid addition really fixes that issue (almost no throttle lag), which is why I went with that one. The MPG boost doesn't hurt, either!

Probably the nicest car I have ever driven to be honest. No real complaints, yet. I leased it for three year, so if things go downhill I can always just hand it back and pick something else up. But so far, really impressed.
 
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Cujet,

The throttle response on the new Camry drives me crazy. Its not linear and causes the Camry to be very jumpy at low speeds.

Other than that.... I think its a good, but ugly vehicle.
 
Well after a few hundred mile trip my opinion has not gone up. The transmission in this SE can't make up its mind when and if it wants to shift, this is really comes to light in mountain driving. Heaven help you if you change your mind and have to gas it up immediately after letting off the gas.....the wait is a killer in terms of time while the computer decides if it will let you accelerate then troubles itself to find a gear that it deems appropriate. The car has more rattles than a snake in a bad mood and it reacts to cross winds like a kite making you fight it all the time. What started out to be exceptional gas mileage, because of being over geared, soon turned to not so good when the wind became a headwind, shifted up and down constantly cruise or manual driving. The tires were worn but not too bad, the road noise was over the top, could not carry on a normal conversation and the din was wearing on the nerves.
Maybe hybrids have better noise control, but the SE in no longer on my "buy" list. Glad I rented it.
My 99 Acura coupe is a much more refined car and it is 20 years older. MHO
Smoky
 
Well the hybrid does have the benefit, if you will, of the CVT so there are no gears to hunt. But given my experience in a lot of newer cars with 6-8 AT gears, many do tend to hunt endlessly and it is a bit annoying. I really think 5 speed is ideal for most...

I find ride noise opposite (perhaps the tires, or something), on the highway I can have the radio/music down very low and when off, it's so easy to talk with other people in the car. A few people have noted to me how quiet the cabin is, so it's not just me.

Compared to my last car (2008 xB) which was practically a sail in the wind, the Camry handles cross winds like a champ. The car barely moves, but again, I'm used to the xB would would shift heavily passing a truck or any decent wind. So my perspective may be a bit different on the scale of bad to good.

No rattles yet either, knock on wood. All solid and quiet, so far... .We shall see how it does long term!
 
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