Top electric vehicle registrations in Europe by company, April 2025

[97prizm]

Yeah but it's not about FSD.
It's just about accident rates. (actually death rate)

Then add in the Head of Tesla's AI and FSD program whom Musk praises ad nauseam was quoted in a recent interview that "Teslas approach is cheaper than Waymo but they are two years behind Waymo.) Ahh how the tide has turned. A company so far ahead is now two years behind Waymo with no level 3 automotive driving aids.

 

[Trav]

You know there are very few options in Teslas. I don't think there has been any real leather in the cars since perhaps 2019. Tesla is not trying to be like other car companies. If you want full leather seats, don't buy a Tesla because that's not what they are about.

The seats in our car are excellent and the "vegan leather" is buttery soft.

That is how you justify cheap plastic seats in a 100K car? It is a cost cutting measure nothing more or less or possibly a virtue signaling scam but certainly nothing to do with quality. What is "vegan" leather anyway? I never saw a vegan cow as opposed to a carnivorous one.
It is an outright fraud, at least MB and BMW has the common decency not to insult peoples intelligence to call it MB Tex and BMW SensaTec.

Many cars have a real leather option today...

Refined leathers​

Audi selects closely-matched hides of leather for a cohesive interior look. High-quality leather and gentle processing methods ensure a comfortable, rich, and beautiful final product.

Rolls-Royce now offers vegan leather but nobody wants it. Rolls-Royce boss Torsten Müller-Ötvös has admitted that take-up of leather-free cabins on its Roll-Royce Ghost, Dawn, Wraith, Phantom and Cullinan models has been disappointing as not a single buyer had opted for it.

Mercedes-Benz brands its vinyl as MB-Tex, and it is standard equipment on the C-Class and E-Class sedans, and the M-Class and GL-Class SUVs, just to name a few model lines. Leather seats are standard on the more expensive models, such as the S-Class, CLS-Class and G-Class, and are available as an extra-cost option on all vehicles.


Why would the brand choose to offer MB-Tex over leather seats in its vehicles? There are a number of reasons; probably the most important is that it lowers production costs and allows Mercedes to offer a competitve starting price for its vehicles.

If you want your BMW leather to really impress your passengers, you’ll need Merino. While Nappa leather is standard on most luxury BMWs, it’s the Merino leather that’s optional on them. Even the 7 Series makes you pay more for Merino leather because it’s the best that BMW offers.

https://www.bmwblog.com/2025/01/30/2025-bmw-m5-new-leather-upholstery-options/

https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/12/23/...e-the-different-types-of-bmw-leather-options/

 

[Torrid]

So vinyl seats that feel surprisingly like leather is unacceptable in a $50k car? Where are you coming up with this figure of $100k? My cars combined were under $100k new. Would I also just prefer cloth if I can’t have real leather? My answer previously was yes, but after having the car for a while the seats are easy to clean and don’t feel rubbery in the heat. This isn’t the vinyl seats or the 80’s.

Can we get off this virtue signaling BS language? All your posts are virtue signaling because you can’t contain your hatred for Tesla and you just need everyone to know it. @Trav take a little break if it bothers you that much. You vote with your own dollars. We’ll vote with our own. It’s not that serious. You’re not swaying options here with your version of the facts.

 

[Trav]

The model S at one point cost the same as a MB S class that did cost 100K+ and now still cost over 90K. JK made the comment about new cars not offering leather. Totally false but we all know that. No we cant get off this virtue signaling because that is exactly what it is.
You guy are not convincing anyone either with this never ending promotion of these vehicles.

 

[OVERKILL]

So vinyl seats that feel surprisingly like leather is unacceptable in a $50k car? Where are you coming up with this figure of $100k? My cars combined were under $100k new. Would I also just prefer cloth if I can’t have real leather? My answer previously was yes, but after having the car for a while the seats are easy to clean and don’t feel rubbery in the heat. This isn’t the vinyl seats or the 80’s.

Can we get off this virtue signaling BS language? All your posts are virtue signaling because you can’t contain your hatred for Tesla and you just need everyone to know it. @Trav take a little break if it bothers you that much. You vote with your own dollars. We’ll vote with our own. It’s not that serious. You’re not swaying options here with your version of the facts.

I assume he's talking about the S and X, which, at that price point, not having real leather as an option IS a bit eye opening.

I also find it a bit amusing that a petroleum product (vinyl) is panned as being "greener" than leather, which is arguably a renewable resource.

 

[JeffKeryk]

That is how you justify cheap plastic seats in a 100K car? It is a cost cutting measure nothing more or less or possibly a virtue signaling scam but certainly nothing to do with quality. What is "vegan" leather anyway? I never saw a vegan cow as opposed to a carnivorous one.
It is an outright fraud, at least MB and BMW has the common decency not to insult peoples intelligence to call it MB Tex and BMW SensaTec.

Many cars have a real leather option today...

Vegan leather is just a name; of course it is an oxymoron. I could care less what they call it. I'm sure you know there are a lot of synthetic materials being used in cars today. Choices are good.
The seats in my care are excellent; the material is designed to mimic the look and feel of traditional leather.

If you want leather, look elsewhere. If you want a traditional car, look elsewhere.

 

[loneryder]

Im not so sure the reasons for both Volvo and Tesla declines. Yes, I know the whole hate Musk thing is a factor however I have said for years now once other automakers come online with EV's Tesla would no longer have the market to themselves.

So my question would be this, since both Volvo and Tesla took big hits was this because they were first to market over there.
It would be 100% natural to lose big market share once other automakers started producing the same product.

Same here in the USA. An EV is an "engine" powered by a battery. If you were the only one with that product of course your sales would be through the roof UNTIL other automakers (established ones at that) came out and offered their customers both fossil fuel vehicles AND EV's in the same showrooms.
As far as Tesla in the USA, their only big presence is online vs companies like GM almost one in every town.

First to market with any product always retains the largest market share...even after competitors come to market. OP's thread is looking at registrations in the last year. What is the real market share in Europe??

 

[loneryder]

Sad but not surprising that GM isnt even on the list.

Euro tariffs are too high.

 

[edyvw]

Euro tariffs are too high.

What are you talking about?
GM was present in Europe through Opel. They sold it, after German government bailed them out. Those tariffs don’t stop FORD from being 4th largest seller in Europe. How is that those “tariffs “ don’t bother FORD?
And tell us, what will GM sell in Europe? I really want to know what competitive model GM has? They already sell Cadillac (which, cannot compete with anyone), and few Corvettes. But, what else? What other model GM has that would be competitive in Europe?

 

[goblin]

The beauty of such statistics are that we rarely put them in perspective.

All the sales from the beginning of this thread, combined, amount to 128,697 vehicles total. My understanding is that it's from all Europe (at least that's what the title says ? I didn't dig into details).

California alone registered 382000 EVs in 2023 and 387000 in 2024. Of that number, Tesla had north of 200k each year. I'm sure the numbers for the whole of US are easy to find.

Those tariffs don’t stop FORD from being 4th largest seller in Europe. How is that those “tariffs “ don’t bother FORD?

You are right about FORD's presence in Europe, but I don't think they have many nuts or bolts flying or swimming across the pond one way or the other. All of FORD's Euro production is local and has always been. I believe the only US-made FORD sold in Europe is the Mustang, and possibly the Ranger.

On a second look - a bit more, but still niche. Here's FORD's offer on their German site:

The utility vehicles overlap somewhat with their US siblings, but I'm quite sure they are built in Europe.

 

[SC Maintenance]

All the sales from the beginning of this thread, combined, amount to 128,697 vehicles total. My understanding is that it's from all Europe (at least that's what the title says ? I didn't dig into details).

I believe those are from a single month - April of this year - IIANM.

So call it 1.5M a year?

Total Euro market is ~12M, so call it 15% ish?

 

[alarmguy]

First to market with any product always retains the largest market share...even after competitors come to market. OP's thread is looking at registrations in the last year. What is the real market share in Europe??

That's all that matters. Recent sales market share shows who is gaining and who is losing. Past doesnt matter (meaning more than a year), future of a company does.

You know the saying "one hit wonder"?

 

[alarmguy]

The beauty of such statistics are that we rarely put them in perspective.

All the sales from the beginning of this thread, combined, amount to 128,697 vehicles total. My understanding is that it's from all Europe (at least that's what the title says ? I didn't dig into details).

California alone registered 382000 EVs in 2023 and 387000 in 2024. Of that number, Tesla had north of 200k each year. I'm sure the numbers for the whole of US are easy to find.

That is 128,697 vehicles in Europe sold in the month of April, you are then comparing that to the USA for a year?
The OP chart just shows the winners and losers for the month. Tesla is in the toilet to be honest, in Europe. Not sure what that has to do with CA or the USA> IN the USA Tesla sales were 634,000 for 2024 year, a 5.6% drop from 2023. Tesla sales are approx. because they do not release their USA sales to the public.

 

[goblin]

I was comparing it to California for the year. And yes, the Euro numbers looked low for yearly numbers.
And yes, Tesla is in the toilet. They have always been a combination of amazing and irritating stuff with no alternative for the amazing part. The day others started doing the amazing part - they knew to brace for some real competition. Slapping politics on it in the most childish way at that very moment can't help.

 

[Torrid]

The model S at one point cost the same as a MB S class that did cost 100K+ and now still cost over 90K. JK made the comment about new cars not offering leather. Totally false but we all know that. No we cant get off this virtue signaling because that is exactly what it is.
You guy are not convincing anyone either with this never ending promotion of these vehicles.

I think you’re taking it too personally. It’s not that serious. He expressed his opinion that the interior materials aren’t the deal breaker for him that it is for you and that’s pretty obvious based on how we all spent our money.

I think you read wrong of it being claimed that new cars don’t have leather. I read Tesla hasn’t used real leather since 2019 in any models. I didn’t see anything that the industry itself stopped using leather.

I think the Model 3 and Model Y represent good value for what they offer under $50k. They fit the bill for what I am looking for in a car these days. I find the seats comfortable, feel surprisingly premium for fancy rubber, and they’re easy to clean which makes them a huge positive for my dirty job and kids in and out of the vehicle. As much as I like the Model S, I agree with you. These materials aren’t enough at the $70k plus they go for. These should offer higher end materials for the price point they are in. I know the Plaid is touted for its outright speed, but I’d rather have that in the 3 or Y instead of the larger, more dated S. I would not purchase a Model S or X new, nor would I consider a Cybertruck in any capacity.

 

[UncleDave]

Euro tariffs are too high.

If that were the case Tesla wouldn't have cracked the top list.

 

[Torrid]

I assume he's talking about the S and X, which, at that price point, not having real leather as an option IS a bit eye opening.

I also find it a bit amusing that a petroleum product (vinyl) is panned as being "greener" than leather, which is arguably a renewable resource.

I think Tesla has under cut themselves with the 3 and Y and streamlining materials to save cost. I would not consider the S or X at their price points when the 3 or Y exist.

I don’t think they’re calling the material greener. They just call it vegan because a cow didn’t die for the interior.

 

[4WD]

I think Tesla has under cut themselves with the 3 and Y and streamlining materials to save cost. I would not consider the S or X at their price points when the 3 or Y exist.

I don’t think they’re calling the material greener. They just call it vegan because a cow didn’t die for the interior.

Well the chicken or the egg debate certainly lives on - but that cow died for ribeye’s - the hide was a byproduct

 

[Torrid]

Well the chicken or the egg debate certainly lives on - but that cow died for ribeye’s - the hide was a byproduct

I’m not saying I agree with it, that’s just the reasoning as I understand it.

Now as far as the debate between synthetic and real leather I think there’s less difference than there has ever been. Most lower end leathers are painted and coated. You’d be hard pressed to tell the difference in feel with a softer vinyl. The only real difference is the faint smell overly processed leather still give off and if the vinyl is too stretchy to simulate the way leather stretches along its grain and rubber can stretch in any direction.

Leather seats aren’t the pure process they used to be of tanning and dying. It’s why products like Mothers VLR exist. It’s for vinyl, leather, and rubber. With modern “leather” you’re just treating the top coating from cracking and it’s a petroleum product. You have to get pretty high end to get quality leather.

 

[OVERKILL]

I don’t think they’re calling the material greener. They just call it vegan because a cow didn’t die for the interior.

But it's certainly implied that it's greener:
https://cleantechnica.com/2021/11/24/tesla-vegan-leather-seats-how-not-to-destroy-the-rainforest/

Despite the hype in that article about petroleum alternatives being used for "vegan leather", stating that most of them are not using (old school) petroleum, the reality is that most of them ARE using petroleum, including Tesla:
https://www.motortrend.com/features/vegan-leather-in-cars

So the arguments made at the end that it has lower CO2 emissions, uses fewer chemicals...etc. All that nonsense is just fantastical delusion from the same crowd that believes you can run a major economy on wind turbines and a few hours of batteries.