To EV or not to EV

Astro14 said:
I gotta believe that 11 second quarters in the Vette are a symphony of experience while 11 second quarters in a Tesla are just a hard push in the seat.

Same result, totally different experience.

An 11 second quarter in my Wife’s SL is accompanied by the song of the V-12, and a couple shifts. It’s wonderful.

There are a lot of things that appeal to me about electric propulsion - but the acceleration isn’t anywhere the top of the list. Devoid of the accompaniment - does it really matter?
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I like this noise and of speed of the yellow bird. Not bad for a guy in slippers in 1987.

 
Trav said:
I like this noise and of speed of the yellow bird. Not bad for a guy in slippers in 1987.

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One of my all time favorite vids.

I do not like EV to the exclusion of ICE, both are now on the menus and will be a long time.
 
Of note

The yellowbirds ring time was 8:05 - 8:10
Model 3 performance did it in 7:44

Same thing - no -.
Is the electric fun - you bet it is. It's a blast.
 
PandaBear said:
It really depends on the car, some ICE car like the Nissan CVT is super unreliable and some EV like Nissan Leaf is as well. I would look at the track record of the company designing and making them, and see how they handle bad design.

EV's battery replacement cost / depreciation cost is the biggest cost IMO, not the electricity to charge it. If you don't drive much an EV can actually be wasted sitting there aging, unlike a gas car sitting there not using fuel. To me if I commute comfortably in the EV's range then it would be the best choice, if further out or frequent long distance driving I'd pick a hybrid or plug in hybrid, then if I rarely drive I'd just get a cheap used high mileage recent year gas car.
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Leafs might be somewhat unreliable in hot climates but they're ubiquitous where I am in British Columbia (though Tesla seems to be absolutely everywhere now) and they last 10 years and beyond. Lots of 2012 Leafs on the roads here, still doing well...and they sell right away when they come up. I'd buy one at the right price if I was looking.
 
OVERKILL said:
Not to be too "rub it in your face" to the Cali folks, but these are our current rates, yes, they've gone DOWN.
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While we haven't completely recovered from the Green Energy Act disaster, things are headed in the right direction.

If you convert those current rates to USD, that's 0.053/0.076/0.113 per kWh.

The province is currently looking at building more nukes, so we'll see how that looks probably in the next year or two.
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My rates have stayed the same for the last half decade or so at about .11X delivered. No peak/low, just flat.
 
Astro14 said:
I gotta believe that 11 second quarters in the Vette are a symphony of experience while 11 second quarters in a Tesla are just a hard push in the seat.

Same result, totally different experience.

An 11 second quarter in my Wife’s SL is accompanied by the song of the V-12, and a couple shifts. It’s wonderful.

There are a lot of things that appeal to me about electric propulsion - but the acceleration isn’t anywhere the top of the list. Devoid of the accompaniment - does it really matter?
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Accompaniment of what? I get the turbine whine of 20K rpm motors. Not as nice as a V12 for sure, but it's also free nearly, so there's that, and it is a unique sound, hearing the inverter whine and those motors spool. Sounds like you're sitting on top of the worlds largest turbo with a decent bit of sound insulation and magically there's zero lag.

The thing is, the SL is so limited in many ways EV's are not. No AWD. Around 4"ground clearance. Paying out the nose to own it. Once upon a time I priced the SL series of AMG back when I lived in the city, and the maintenance is absolutely unreal. Another thing is rolling acceleration. The EV dominates this game because there are no "downshifts" or "wrong gears".
 
PimTac said:
All this talk of snappy acceleration from EVs is bound to keep orthopedic surgeons busy in the coming years.
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Not with most EVs. Even the high performance ones can be driven gently. Even with more power, the power delivery is controlled. I’m thinking more how EMALS on an aircraft carrier is supposed to be less jarring to the gear and frame than steam, which isn’t as carefully controlled.
 
OVERKILL said:
Wow, that's interesting.
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The process was to get a bill showing the breakdown of charges if the rate was variable and then you'd be allowed to decide if you did not want flat rate. I've tried to change it 3 times and now I no longer have the option to select it.

It sounds like an inconvenience that the power company doesn't want to deal with.
 
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