To all recent Honda Owners- At what mileage did you change your factory fill?

[OutlawTitan]

2003 4 cyl Accord
changed at 2,959 miles and has never used a drop of oil between 5K mile oil changes using Schaeffers 5W-30...now have 19K.

2002 CRV-EX
changed at 1K miles to Chevron 10W-30 and been using Schaeffers 5W-30 for around last 30K. Currently have 56K miles and never used a drop of oil.

 

[Ray H]

Food for thought posted Jan 14 by vtmetcheng under, "Honda break-in oil"

"Just to be the distrusting consumer... Cars like Hondas and Toyotas will run for well over 200,000 miles with correct maintenance, including break-in period. Now, remember that an overwhelming majority of automotive owners do not keep a new vehicle for more then 100,000 miles. What does this mean to the automotive manufacturers, well why should they care about miles after 100,000? As long as the car runs without problems for this time the customer is likely to be a repeat customer, still living in the mindset that 100,000 miles trouble free is a good car. I can tell you that an improperly broken in engine will last past 100,000 miles, see it every day [emphaisis mine, RH]. The fact remains that an automobile company will not want there [sic] car to last 300,000 miles because they are loosing money. What interest would they have in keeping you from their showrooms? Is anyone saying a high Moley [sic] count is bad in break-in oil, no, but wear particles [emphasis mine, RH] are. Some say, "just change the filter then," but you forget that filters only get larger pieces (larger being relative). The very small pieces that do get through are also able to get between parts (ex. main bearings and the crank), allowing aluminum and other particles in [emphasis mine, RH].
This is just something to think about in my distrusting mind. I could go on like this forever but had to make myself stop."

 

[blakegeo]

'03 Accord V6--oil chg--3614 miles to Penz 5-20

 

[Hankrr]

2000 V6 Accord @ 500 miles

2003 CRV @ 1300 miles

 

[416Rigby]

2004 Honda Element--changed factory fill at 7200 miles (nasty!), used Redline 5W-20. No oil consumption at all.
2004 Acura TL--changed factory fill at 550 miles, went to M1 0W-20. At 9700 miles went to Redline 5W-20. Again, no oil consumption.

 

[flotsamm]

2002 Civic EX 1.7L 5-speed

Bought brand new with 8 miles on it. Changed factory fill at 4,787 miles using Genuine 5w20 Honda oil and Honda Filtech oil filter. Currently has 32,xxx miles with oil changes done every 4,000 miles. I drive about 300 to 320 miles a week, 98% highway. Drives like day one and doesnt burn a drop of oil. Get about 35 to 37mpg.

 

[buster]

About to drop the factory oil today. 4,100 miles. Will run Honda 5w-20 another 2k for flush then move to a synthetic of unknown brand or viscosity bc this board drives me up the wall in trying to make a decision.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

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[ April 17, 2005, 11:15 AM: Message edited by: Triple_Se7en ]

 

[Audi Junkie]

I guess this is as good a place as any to get feedback on my plan for the 2005 2.4 Honda I am looking at. I will do a change at 2000mi with either Honda oil or some other otc 5w-20 or probally a 5w-30 if it is still summer. I want to run that for 3000mi and then Mobil 1 0w-30 for 5000mi which gets me to the 10k mark. After that I may just do 2x a year changes because I don't intend to put over 10k/6months. All trips are full-length for me.

 

[ex_MGB]

I've an '05 Ody. Haven't changed factory fill yet at 3k miles and will not do so before 3750 miles. I'm leaning towards good old Honda 5W-20 as my next fill for 3k or 4k miles.

[ April 17, 2005, 11:57 PM: Message edited by: ex_MGB ]

 

[JBrian]

2004 Accord 2.4L K24 5-speed manual averaging 32+Mpg for all tanks (Calculated). I performed the first oil/filter change tire rotate at 5155 miles at WalMart using:

SuperTech 5W-30 (4 quarts)
Valvoline MaxLife Engine Protector (7 oz.)
SuperTech ST7317

When I hit 10,000 miles I’ll evaluate staying with the SuperTech oil/filter for 5000 miles changes and rotate my tires for a grand total of $19.88 + tax, ($13.88 oil/filter service, $6.00 tire rotation) or go to Mobil1 5W-30 with the SuperTech oil filter for probably 7500 miles. This cost difference based upon 15,000 mile interviews will be:

SuperTech 5W30 & tire rotation @ 5000 miles * 3 = $60.00
Mobil1 5W-30 & tire rotation @ 7500 miles * 2 = $72.00

Are there any real differences in protection at these intervals?

 

[Ugly3]

JBrian - When I hit 10,000 miles I’ll evaluate staying with the SuperTech oil/filter for 5000 miles changes and rotate my tires for a grand total of $19.88 + tax, ($13.88 oil/filter service, $6.00 tire rotation) or go to Mobil1 5W-30 with the SuperTech oil filter for probably 7500 miles.

How will you evaluate the performance of the ST set up?

 

[CJH]

2000 Civic Si (B16A2)

I am a big believer in following the owner's manual. Car is driven only on 100 mile daily communte (50 miles each way) of driving on rural roads.

Factory fill dumped at 7,100 miles.

Used Pennzoil 5W30 at 7,500 mile intervals for the balance of the first 50,000 miles. Then switched to Mobil 1 5W30, and then to Castrol Syntec 0W30 at 5,000 mile intervals. The Mobil 1 5W30 seems a bit thin for this car - it seems to prefer the Castrol Sytntec 0W30.

Uses oil at a rate of about 1 quart per 8,000 miles (I never let it go that far...it is down about 2/3 quart at 5,000 miles. This engine has an 8,000 rpm redline and produces 160 hp from 1.6 liter). From what I have read on Honda forums, some oil consumption is normal if you are in the Vtec range of 5,500 to 8,000 rpms a lot, which I am on a very frequent basis.

Car now has 75,000 miles on it. No change in comsumption rate since it was new.

I am extremely pleased with this car and engine.

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Originally posted by MMX:
2000 Civic SiR (B16A2):

- Factory fill dumped at 4800 km (~= 2983 miles);
Used M1 5W30 in the winter & M1 10W30 in the summer between 4800 km to 78000 km on the odometer.
(negligible consumption -> about 100 mL max. every 6000-7000 km depending on frequency of VTEC engagement)

- have just switched to GC for 3000 km now with zero consumption.

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[2x]

On my 99 Civic dumped factory fill @ 3750. Has 61000 miles on it now and zero oil consumption. Used M1 5w-30 or 0w-30. If you notice with this thread and other posts on this board, I'd say the vast majority of Honda's burn zero oil. This is with people leaving the break in oil for the recc. mileage as stipulated by Honda or if they dump early. Either way I think you will probably be fine, but I'd keep it in. I figure Honda build this vast rep they have for great durable engines and would not risk losing it's main competitive advantage by recommending something that may tarnish that rep. Honda does not need to suggest something that will wear their engines out sooner to get more repeat business. If you read any of the business headlines this day and age, you'll see that Honda, Toyota and Nissan don't need to drum up any business by suggesting things that will result in shorter engine life.

 

[benjamming]

I changed the factory fill on my 2002 Accord V6 at 6,800 miles. I should have changed it earlier. If I had it to do over I would have absolutely changed it by 5,000 miles & probably at 3,750 miles. Then I would have went 5,000 miles the 2nd interval. Two 7,500 mile intervals would follow that & then go to extended drains.

 

[HondaMan]

Have decided to dump the factory fill on the new 05 Odyssey at 3k miles. That is unless by chance the Odyssey's Oil Life monitor tells me otherwise (sooner).

Perhaps of interest to some, I have only 481 miles on the Odyssey with Oil Life monitor still at 100% and I must now make a 1500 mile trip in two days (Ohio to Texas), we'll see what it does.

I am leaning towards Mobil Clean 5000 (5w-20) and a 3k oci.

I will UOA the factory fill for those who might be interested.

 

[Thatwouldbegreat]

2004 Honda Element changed at 3K and switched to M1 0W-20 10K OCI

 

[mike1qaz]

'01 Accord 4cyl currently at 140K+ miles.

Did the first change at 3800 and used Pennz 5w20 till 10K (~3K intervals). Used M1 5w30 for the next 90K (6-7.5K intervals). Currently back using Pennz 5w20 @3.5-4K intervals. To date, no usage or leaks except for the tranny. It died at 112K with frequent ATFZ1 fluid changes.

[ April 24, 2005, 01:19 PM: Message edited by: mike1qaz ]

 

[Leon]

95 civic, changed the factory fill at 1500km with mobil 1 15W-50. At the time I wanted to check valve adjustment and the valve cover was covered in varnish. I didn't think much about the factory-fill because of the varnish, so I changed the oil. I use the M1 at 8-11000 km intervals and now the inside of the valve cover is very clean, no oil consumption and the engine runs like new.

 

[Repecat]

2004 Acura TL Changed out factory fill at 4000 miles. Replentished with Motocraft semi syn 5w-20 oil and Purolator filter. Not using any oil. Now at 7800 miles and plan on next changeout at 8000 miles with Havoline 5w-20 (if I can find it) and another puro filter.