Too far gone ... I smell a lock, maybe a total delete.This isn't a morality thread, this is a thread about tips for long term storage. Mods, please delete all the OT comments so we can restore the thread.
Spend enough time in stores (especially Walmart) you will see some strange things. I saw a couple on a Sunday morning ... I am gonna guess they pulled this when they assumed the experienced older workers are, off pull a basket full to the top with groceries (cold meats / milk / vegetables etc... and they told the young girl they want to return ALL OF IT. She seemed to be too intimidated to ask WHY? She just allowed them to take better part of 30 to 40 minutes to unload it all and gave them a handful of cash, about $300. I was next with a $6.99 return. She sure asked me for a card to return it to after she just took back + forked over $300 cash for groceries still sitting next to her cash register (cold food and milk etc...) I later saw this couple getting into some van that had some religious artwork painted on the sides like some sort of travelling road preacher van and they were leaving the Walmart with zero? Just strange to me. Yeah, lots of stuff is strange to me as I get older and become....No sense of ethics. That's called fraud, which is why they track your non-receipt returns with your ID and limit it to a certain amount. I've seen someone get denied a return under this policy. If you return with receipt they refund what you paid. But I guess if its not enforced, it doesn't matter because its under 950 dollars? Or do you justify because you've been oppressed by the oil companies?![]()
I know the UPC on Valvoline oil jugs is unique for Walmart per Valvoline customer service (that might be the case for other oil brands too). So if someone is trying to return a jug purchased from another store it's not going to show up on Walmart's UPC scan.
When I did oil research and decided on Valvoline Advanced, I noticed the UPC on the Walmart jugs was different than the UPC shown on Valvoline's website for the same exact jug. I called Valvoline and was told that Walmart requested a unique UPC for all Valvoline oil bought and sold by Walmart. Otherwise, it's the same exact oil. The Valvoline jugs don't say "Walmart" anywhere on them - just the UPC difference.I’m not sure as it’s been a long time shopping at Walmart. I seem to remember bottles of oil having the Walmart name posted on oil such as Mobil 1.
What else do you have stashed away?LOL. Apparently some people never learn about the weaknesses of JIT inventory and shortages. I laughed for much of 2020 when people were standing in lines, crying because they needed XYZ and could not get it. All of the "where can I find (insert ammo, oil, car parts, computers, chips, etc.)" have been entertaining b/c of people who refuse to set something aside.
Barring catastrophe, even factoring time, inventory, buying heavy duty shelving, and moving this oil I will never have to buy another drop in the next 15-20 years. Selling oil has more than paid for all my time, effort, equipment, travel, and every drop of oil I've ever bought in my life or will ever buy going forward...
Why would I need professional help?
Only way Walmart would actually give cash as a refund is if they paid with cash.Spend enough time in stores (especially Walmart) you will see some strange things. I saw a couple on a Sunday morning ... I am gonna guess they pulled this when they assumed the experienced older workers are, off pull a basket full to the top with groceries (cold meats / milk / vegetables etc... and they told the young girl they want to return ALL OF IT. She seemed to be too intimidated to ask WHY? She just allowed them to take better part of 30 to 40 minutes to unload it all and gave them a handful of cash, about $300.
Fifteen to TWENTY years of oil? I'm with you. It's very strange..............probably has a "blast bunker" too!What else do you have stashed away?
You realize a car would still run even if you never changed the oil don't you? Probably for a good 100,000 miles. Meaning you don't need a multi year stash for Armageddon! This post is directed towards "Charles In Charge".What else do you have stashed away?
it was just so strange to see that much fresh / cold food returned at that early hours... ?Only way Walmart would actually give cash as a refund is if they paid with cash.
That is a good idea. I always try to keep the store receipts stored in cabinet in my shop. At work I would attatch a small stainless steel metal tag to the engines or diesel run fire pumps I would service. Then there was no question if anything happened.I was a participant in the Great Oil Harvest Hurricane Walmart event, and amassed huge amounts of oil, which I've been slowly selling, trading, and using for my fleet of vehicles. I also recently moved, and had to move thousands of quarts. In this experience, I've gathered some tips to share.
Heavy duty shelving is a near must-have, try to keep a floor barrier between the floor and jugs - even cardboard or wood, to reduce leaking. Climate control or at least indoors and out of direct weather or sun is a must-have. A large basin under the oil is suggested, if possible to contain leaks. If you get oil in boxes/bags, keeping in boxes/bags until needed as extra leak protection. Keep all the unused bags, and even clean empty/used oil jugs, for future leakers if you need to transfer oil.
If you have time, it's smart to write the date (month/year) on jugs of acquired oil. I do this on my oil filters too when I install them.
Please share any of your tips.
My worry is stashing oil I bought in plastic bags held inside cardboard containers. Intuitively, I believe they may leak with time. I try to use those up first, or transfer them into plastic jugs if I find an empty one.
I recently changed oil and used up the last of some SJ and SL motor oil, which was all good and worked fine (save 1 opened qt, which had water contamination and was disposed of). SJ oil would have been ~20 years old, and SL ~15 years old. So, yeah, properly stored oil will last 15-20 years without problem IMO.Fifteen to TWENTY years of oil? I'm with you. It's very strange..............probably has a "blast bunker" too!
First, you're obviously not grasping the point. Did I ever say "armageddon?" No. Smart people who save and store stuff are doing so as a hedge against inflation and against the JIT system that has weaknesses. And as I've plainly said, I've paid for every drop I've ever used and will ever use, so it's economically intelligent.You realize a car would still run even if you never changed the oil don't you? Probably for a good 100,000 miles. Meaning you don't need a multi year stash for Armageddon! This post is directed towards "Charles In Charge".
Anyone challenging the concept of storing goods as hedge against JIT and inflation has not learned the lessons of 2020-2021 of shortages and radical (50% at times) price increases and purchase limits for goods (lumber, cars, housing, ammunition, guns, oil, toilet paper, concrete, steel, building materials, tires, gasoline [difficult to store], etc.). People buying my oil comment that "Walmart is out of this...". If you like standing in "bread lines," getting your allotment, and you fit in the category unable to grasp this simple concept, this discussion is not for you so move along.
How is it a hard concept? I bought oil at 15 cents and sell it at $5. What is the challenging part here? I find it perhaps harder to understand how someone does NOT understand it. I digress, why participate in a discussion if to just voice dissent that you don't like it when others stockpile something?The simple concept is storing thousands of quarts of motor oil-not I don't understand this. End of discussion.