Three V8s and an I6...what oil(s)?

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I'm new here although I have done PLENTY of general reading before signing up earlier today. I have three V8s and an I6 in my family fleet, each with its own needs. I'd like suggestions on the type of oil to use. I'll be as specific as I can with each vehicle's use, history, future intentions and what oils, using recent knowledge gained from reading through the abundance of information on here, I think could possibly be decent matches to my vehicles. I'll start with the oldest and end with the newest. I use OEM filters for each vehicle and I am from South Texas which means hot and humid most of the time and somewhat cold and humid in the winter.

1999 Jeep Wrangler 4.0 ~97,500 miles
My parents have owned this one since new; oil changes every 5,000 give or take maybe a thousand miles. I can't recall what my father used when it was younger but ever since I have been keeping tabs on maintenance, my dad and I have been using M1 Syn 10W-30 switching between HM and the regular M1 syn. These past two oil changes however, I decided to change it up. First used was M1 AFE 0W-30; it ran fine on this but the low zinc levels concerned me because from what I understand, the 4.0s need higher zinc levels. This past oil change, I went with M1 HM 5W-30; no issues. Most of those miles are city miles with the occasional two hour trip to the beach/random trip on the highway although the past 10,000 miles were predominantly highway miles put on by me. The Jeep will stay in the family; my parents and I plan on keeping it indefinitely. After reading about how awesome GC is, I have been considering it or M1 0W-40. I know these engines can probably run on olive oil because they're so stout but I like synthetics so I won't go to a dino on any application.

2000 Ford Excursion 5.4 ~220,000 miles
My parents are the original owners. Lots of highway miles on this but also plenty of city miles; overall, it sees mixed driving but how we're using it now, it is geared more towards city driving. It has a similar history to the Jeep; same brand but 5W-30. Latest oil change we used M1 regular syn 5W-30. It too will likely be in the family for awhile. Like the Jeep, it seems like GC or M1 0W-40 would make for a good oil in in.

2008 BMW 550i 4.8 ~106,200 miles
This is my current vehicle. I am the third owner. The previous owner, who we purchased it from, maintained it perfectly at his BMW dealership which has been verified by his complete document history and a BMW service report that I acquired at my dealership. So BMW 5W-30 has been the oil of choice. I will likely be taking it to an indy shop who also uses BMW 5W-30; at these miles however, I will not be running the 15,000 OCIs. It sees mixed driving but it will see the occasional two hour plus road trip. I don't have a definitive time frame for keeping it but I need it to be well maintained for the numerous road trips I take. If I don't take it to the indy, my top choices are GC or M1 0W-40.

2012 Hyundai Genesis 5.0 ~20,000
This is a lease which we will have for 36 months. We may or may not purchase it outright after the lease ends. After the FF, I believe my father had the dealership put in either M1 regular syn or M1 EP both being 5W-30. The last oil change, we put in M1 EP 5W-30. Being that it is still under warranty and will be having the dealership change the oil, I am probably best sticking to a viscosity Hyundai states so either 5W-30 or 5W-20. I have not done much reading about the Tau engines but do you all know what these engines like to have lubricating their insides?

In regards to the possible GC applications, is it better to go with the M1 0W-40 with its SN rating due to the higher ethanol content that we unfortunately get with our fuels? Or has GC not really been affected by the higher ethanol content?

I've provided a lot so I hope it is not too much! I appreciate all the feedback that I can get!
 
As a casual observer you stated up front that you have done plenty of reading here, and then asked for suggestions....and then eliminated conventional oil as an option so.. I can't help you. You eliminated most of the options.I'd use the cheapest 'dino' I could get. Typically Mobile Super 5k. You won't notice any difference in whatever you use as long as it meets specs. Don't read too much into it.
 
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I didn't want a conventional vs. synthetic debacle. I like synthetic, you like conventional and that's fair. I appreciate your opinion nonetheless.
 
The jeep needs a 40 grade. There is much info on the piston skirt issues here.
The excursion is fine with a 20 grade. The BMW is a candidate for either GC,BC or m1 0w-40 and use whatever the warranty requires in the genesis.
 
Originally Posted By: Clevy
The jeep needs a 40 grade. There is much info on the piston skirt issues here.
The excursion is fine with a 20 grade. The BMW is a candidate for either GC,BC or m1 0w-40 and use whatever the warranty requires in the genesis.


Didn't realize there was issues with the piston skirts on the Jeep; I'll have to read more in to that. With the Excursion's high mileage and the heat of South Texas, is it an issue switching to the lower viscosity?
 
Cherokee - 10W-40 Pennzoil Yellow Bottle
Ford - Mobil 0W-20 (or any other 20 grade)
BMW - Mobil 0W-40
Hyundai - Mobil 0W-20 (or any other 20 grade)

You might as well put M1 0W-40 in the Cherokee too to simplify things.

I own three Ford modulars. 20 grade is the only way to go. Even on my 5.4 with 200K, the valvetrain is noticeably quieter and doesn't tick as often with the 20 grade. You mention this "Texas Heat"; if you're pulling a 15,000lb stock trailer everywhere, maybe, just maybe you could bump up a grade. No I take that back, I would still use 20 grade. Ha I made a funny.

edit: just saw you're leasing the Hyundai. Heck put whatever is cheapest in there. Definitely go with the 5W-20 to eek out whatever mileage you can out of it Especially since its speced. Whatever you buy can also go in the Ford.
 
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+1 on going with M1 0w40 for both the Jeep and the BMW. Its a steal at walmart prices like $22 a 5.1 qt jug.

Rotella T6 5w40 would also work well in the Jeep.
 
Run conventional in the Jeep. Any SN 10w40 or 15w40 HDEO will run great.
Definitely Mobil 1 0w40 in the BMW.
In the ford, the cheapest 5w30 synthetic on the shelf.
In the Hyundai, read the manual. Some newer manuals do list a 5w40 as acceptable for use when temperatures are high enough. That 5.0 should love Mobil 1 0w40. Down in Texas you should be plenty warm enough to run it. Hyundais are running 40 weight over in Europe without issue in the same motors they sell here.
If you want one oil for all of your vehicles, Mobil 1 0w40.
 
Cherokee - 10W40 Valvoline White Bottle
Ford - 5W30 Valvoline Synpower
BMW - 0W40 Valvoline Synpower European Formula
Hyundai - 0W20 or 5W20 Pennzoil Ultra

Stick with good quality synthetics, these are only my opinions on what brand and line to use, but you can make that judgement yourself when you need to. Synthetic is almost always the best way to go, good luck.
 
Originally Posted By: TXCarGeek
Originally Posted By: Clevy
The jeep needs a 40 grade. There is much info on the piston skirt issues here.
The excursion is fine with a 20 grade. The BMW is a candidate for either GC,BC or m1 0w-40 and use whatever the warranty requires in the genesis.


Didn't realize there was issues with the piston skirts on the Jeep; I'll have to read more in to that. With the Excursion's high mileage and the heat of South Texas, is it an issue switching to the lower viscosity?


There's millions of ford Modular V8s running high mileage in the heat on 20 grade oils. They hold up very well on 20 grade oils.

The 96+ Jeep 4.0 engines are prone to cracking piston skirts. However, it seems like they really only let go when they hit red line. The 4.0 likes to lug, so keep it away from the red line and you'll be fine! Can't go wrong with Rotella 5w-40, 10w30 or 15w40 in the 4.0s. The tractor engine 4.0 likes thick oil.
 
I thought about the idea of one oil (M1 0W-40) for all the vehicles but figured that I could benefit more from an xW-20 by way of added fuel economy in Genesis. I'll probably use M1 AFE 0W-20 for both the Excursion and the Genesis; that is a fairly stout oil, no? I've heard the Hyundai Tau is very similar to the Ford motors anyway so they would probably like the same stuff.

You guys convinced me on what I was thinking about running M1 0W-40 on both the Jeep and the 5er. Next oil change, that will be what the Jeep sees.
 
The Excursion has never seen a 20 weight oil before; I'm definitely going to have to give it a try next oil change. Same goes for the Genesis.
 
Originally Posted By: TXCarGeek
1999 Jeep Wrangler 4.0 ~97,500 miles
My parents have owned this one since new; oil changes every 5,000 give or take maybe a thousand miles. I can't recall what my father used when it was younger but ever since I have been keeping tabs on maintenance, my dad and I have been using M1 Syn 10W-30 switching between HM and the regular M1 syn. These past two oil changes however, I decided to change it up. First used was M1 AFE 0W-30; it ran fine on this but the low zinc levels concerned me because from what I understand, the 4.0s need higher zinc levels. This past oil change, I went with M1 HM 5W-30; no issues. Most of those miles are city miles with the occasional two hour trip to the beach/random trip on the highway although the past 10,000 miles were predominantly highway miles put on by me. The Jeep will stay in the family; my parents and I plan on keeping it indefinitely. After reading about how awesome GC is, I have been considering it or M1 0W-40. I know these engines can probably run on olive oil because they're so stout but I like synthetics so I won't go to a dino on any application.

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I would want at least a "thick 30" in the Jeep. QS Defy 10w30, Rotella 10w30 would be good, higher ZDDP examples that have proven themselves in the 4.0. I really like PYB in the 4.0 as well, the sky high moly seems to make up for the average ZDDP and they run really quiet on it. The GC should be a good choice as well. The Mobil 1 0w40 was tried by another Jeeper here and he got a sky high iron UOA just like most of the Mobil 1 oils in the 4.0. Since there are so many other good choices I'd just avoid M1 in the Jeep 4.0. While it is not high in ZDDP (and I'm not convinced a broken in 4.0 needs higher ZDDP anyway) Valvoline has also consistently returned very good looking UOA's in the Jeep 4.0.
 
If that Ford 5.4 has run those 220K mi with 5w-30, you'd be foolish to change to a lighter oil now... Keep using what's worked...
 
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Originally Posted By: TXCarGeek
1999 Jeep Wrangler 4.0 ~97,500 miles
My parents have owned this one since new; oil changes every 5,000 give or take maybe a thousand miles. I can't recall what my father used when it was younger but ever since I have been keeping tabs on maintenance, my dad and I have been using M1 Syn 10W-30 switching between HM and the regular M1 syn. These past two oil changes however, I decided to change it up. First used was M1 AFE 0W-30; it ran fine on this but the low zinc levels concerned me because from what I understand, the 4.0s need higher zinc levels. This past oil change, I went with M1 HM 5W-30; no issues. Most of those miles are city miles with the occasional two hour trip to the beach/random trip on the highway although the past 10,000 miles were predominantly highway miles put on by me. The Jeep will stay in the family; my parents and I plan on keeping it indefinitely. After reading about how awesome GC is, I have been considering it or M1 0W-40. I know these engines can probably run on olive oil because they're so stout but I like synthetics so I won't go to a dino on any application.

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I would want at least a "thick 30" in the Jeep. QS Defy 10w30, Rotella 10w30 would be good, higher ZDDP examples that have proven themselves in the 4.0. I really like PYB in the 4.0 as well, the sky high moly seems to make up for the average ZDDP and they run really quiet on it. The GC should be a good choice as well. The Mobil 1 0w40 was tried by another Jeeper here and he got a sky high iron UOA just like most of the Mobil 1 oils in the 4.0. Since there are so many other good choices I'd just avoid M1 in the Jeep 4.0. While it is not high in ZDDP (and I'm not convinced a broken in 4.0 needs higher ZDDP anyway) Valvoline has also consistently returned very good looking UOA's in the Jeep 4.0.


From a post of yours back in February, you said that you were going to run GC in your 4.0; did you end up running it?
 
Originally Posted By: TFB1
If that Ford 5.4 has run those 220K mi with 5w-30, you'd be foolish to change to a lighter oil now... Keep using what's worked...


Point taken.
 
Originally Posted By: TXCarGeek
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Originally Posted By: TXCarGeek
1999 Jeep Wrangler 4.0 ~97,500 miles
My parents have owned this one since new; oil changes every 5,000 give or take maybe a thousand miles. I can't recall what my father used when it was younger but ever since I have been keeping tabs on maintenance, my dad and I have been using M1 Syn 10W-30 switching between HM and the regular M1 syn. These past two oil changes however, I decided to change it up. First used was M1 AFE 0W-30; it ran fine on this but the low zinc levels concerned me because from what I understand, the 4.0s need higher zinc levels. This past oil change, I went with M1 HM 5W-30; no issues. Most of those miles are city miles with the occasional two hour trip to the beach/random trip on the highway although the past 10,000 miles were predominantly highway miles put on by me. The Jeep will stay in the family; my parents and I plan on keeping it indefinitely. After reading about how awesome GC is, I have been considering it or M1 0W-40. I know these engines can probably run on olive oil because they're so stout but I like synthetics so I won't go to a dino on any application.

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I would want at least a "thick 30" in the Jeep. QS Defy 10w30, Rotella 10w30 would be good, higher ZDDP examples that have proven themselves in the 4.0. I really like PYB in the 4.0 as well, the sky high moly seems to make up for the average ZDDP and they run really quiet on it. The GC should be a good choice as well. The Mobil 1 0w40 was tried by another Jeeper here and he got a sky high iron UOA just like most of the Mobil 1 oils in the 4.0. Since there are so many other good choices I'd just avoid M1 in the Jeep 4.0. While it is not high in ZDDP (and I'm not convinced a broken in 4.0 needs higher ZDDP anyway) Valvoline has also consistently returned very good looking UOA's in the Jeep 4.0.


From a post of yours back in February, you said that you were going to run GC in your 4.0; did you end up running it?


I did and was not happy with the results. A UOA is posted somewhere. I made some tweaks that were likely at least partly responsible, but I still thought I could do better, and I was disappointed in the additive levels as well.
 
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Originally Posted By: TXCarGeek
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Originally Posted By: TXCarGeek
1999 Jeep Wrangler 4.0 ~97,500 miles
My parents have owned this one since new; oil changes every 5,000 give or take maybe a thousand miles. I can't recall what my father used when it was younger but ever since I have been keeping tabs on maintenance, my dad and I have been using M1 Syn 10W-30 switching between HM and the regular M1 syn. These past two oil changes however, I decided to change it up. First used was M1 AFE 0W-30; it ran fine on this but the low zinc levels concerned me because from what I understand, the 4.0s need higher zinc levels. This past oil change, I went with M1 HM 5W-30; no issues. Most of those miles are city miles with the occasional two hour trip to the beach/random trip on the highway although the past 10,000 miles were predominantly highway miles put on by me. The Jeep will stay in the family; my parents and I plan on keeping it indefinitely. After reading about how awesome GC is, I have been considering it or M1 0W-40. I know these engines can probably run on olive oil because they're so stout but I like synthetics so I won't go to a dino on any application.

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I would want at least a "thick 30" in the Jeep. QS Defy 10w30, Rotella 10w30 would be good, higher ZDDP examples that have proven themselves in the 4.0. I really like PYB in the 4.0 as well, the sky high moly seems to make up for the average ZDDP and they run really quiet on it. The GC should be a good choice as well. The Mobil 1 0w40 was tried by another Jeeper here and he got a sky high iron UOA just like most of the Mobil 1 oils in the 4.0. Since there are so many other good choices I'd just avoid M1 in the Jeep 4.0. While it is not high in ZDDP (and I'm not convinced a broken in 4.0 needs higher ZDDP anyway) Valvoline has also consistently returned very good looking UOA's in the Jeep 4.0.


From a post of yours back in February, you said that you were going to run GC in your 4.0; did you end up running it?


I did and was not happy with the results. A UOA is posted somewhere. I made some tweaks that were likely at least partly responsible, but I still thought I could do better, and I was disappointed in the additive levels as well.


I gotcha. I really like the idea of running "0W-xx" oils in my vehicles. Most of the ones you recommend for the Jeep are "10W-xx." Is there anything "0W-xx" wise that have given good UOAs in the Jeeps?
 
Castrol GC 0w30 has done well. I have an OCI's worth of it set aside myself but haven't run it yet. I'd bet the new BC (Belgium Castrol) 0w40 would do well also, but I've not seen a Jeep 4.0 UOA on it yet.


As tempting as the M1 0w40 is, and as well as it works in most applications, the one Jeep 4.0 UOA I saw on it was horrid. Iron was triple what it should have been, just like the other flavors of Mobil 1 have done in the 4.0.

Nobody is really sure why M1 does that, but since nothing else does I'll just pick another oil thank you.
 
My 4.0L runs great on QS Defy 10w-30 , unlike what everyone else says there is no need to run a 40 weight in the 4.0L. The 5.4 stick with what you have been using , the BMW any oil that meet BMW longlife 01 oil spec M1 0w-40 is a good pick or GC. The Hyundai should get whatever the book and maintenance schedule calls for.
 
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