Thinking about using a Hastings for a 10K OCI

[macarose]

After contemplating this for a bit (and getting some great feedback here), I'm going to use Mahle filters for a 10k OCI with a Level III synthetic. Both vehicles get regularly driven. The Prius is exceptionally easy on oil and the Prizm seems to do fine since I avoid revving it to the extremes. I just top off every 2500 miles usually no more than a quarter of a quart.

If anyone would like to offer a "Thou shalt not!", I'm all ears.

 

[SilverC6]

Nothing wrong with Hastings filters.

I'd use them @ 7,500 miles with a quality synthetic oil or 5,000 miles with a quality dino.

There is no problem with cellulose media filters.

Hastings builds a high quality filter and put a lot of value in the can.

Some commercial filter manufacturers decontent their filters to the point of being just a thin can, a sparsely pleated media cartridge, and a squirt of glue.

These manufacturers tout the efficiency of their improved cellulose/synthetic blend media heavily. It is the only good thing they have to talk about.

 

[Hessam]

Originally Posted By: ExMachina
Originally Posted By: Hessam
Doesn't Hastings make some of the OEM filters for Porsche and BMW in the U.S. I used the hastings ultra filters for my 2003 330Xi and those filters were very well made and could easily go 15K.
I don't think you will have any issues using the quality hastings filters for 10-15K. However, I wouldn't use the cheaper casite brand hastings for longer than 5K, or at all.


Mann-Hummel oil filters are OEM on BMWs, not Hastings. BMW also uses Hengst, Mahle, and Bosch for new cars sometimes. Never heard of them using Hastings, and I don't think Hastings has an oil filter with the "Ultra" moniker. Fram Ultra exists.


Hastings does make a premium line of filters for some applications. For my 330Xi it was LF482F
Their premium filters have an "F" at the end. It looked just like the wix XP line filter material (wire-backed gray synthetic filter material).
I know that hastings does make OEM filters for Porsche in the U.S.

 

[ExMachina]

Originally Posted By: Hessam
Hastings does make a premium line of filters for some applications. For my 330Xi it was LF482F
Their premium filters have an "F" at the end. It looked just like the wix XP line filter material (wire-backed gray synthetic filter material).
I know that hastings does make OEM filters for Porsche in the U.S.


Interesting. I know BMW accepts at least these 2 LF482 equivalent designs:

One on the left is a Wix-Napagold, and the one on the right a BMW dealer parts counter model probably mann-hummel HU9254x model.
And it looks like the very hard-to-find LF482F :

 

[robo339]

Eh worrying about a couple percent difference dosent really bother me plus I like the baldwin orange got them on sale new for right at 4$ a piece x8 so I'll use them till I run out

 

[ExMachina]

One thing about all this talk about the BMW applications, is that ANY oil filter for that vehicle must be able to go 15,000 miles plus since its a long oil change interval engine line.
Any oil filter it helps to know what they are using for filter media material, and they don't always say.

 

[SilverC6]

Anyone running 15,000 mile OCI's in their BMW has to be leasing.

I'd recommend an intermediate change between the dealer changes if you are still under the service program.

The only oil filters to use in your BMW are German built Mann and Mahle.

Stay away from FRAM, Purolator, etc.

I would trust Wix in a pinch but why roll the dice.

Mann and Mahle filters are easy to buy inexpensively on Amazon.

 

[Greasymechtech]

The Hastings/Baldwin should have no problem with any of your vehicles for whatever the OE recommend OCI is.
They typically don't have a silicone ADBV for those engines that tend to knock without it.
For longer intervals, use an oversized filter.

 

[fdcg27]

Originally Posted By: ExMachina
As usual, there is a crowd on bitog that thinks paper-only filter media is great to use, which just defies the engineering knowledge about filtration. Hastings uses paper in the passenger car engine line of oil filters. What they do in agricultural or HD trucking markets is likely very different.


Well, there is also a crowd of OEMs that find what you term a paper media filter to be perfectly good for drains that may run well in excess of 10K, in the case of some for two such OCIs, but what do they know?

 

[Bigdaddyeasy]

Use the hasting filters. They will do just fine.

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: Greasymechtech
For longer intervals, use an oversized filter.

And the Hastings application guide conveniently states what the oversized (or undersized) version is.

 

[Sayjac]

Originally Posted By: fdcg27
...Well, there is also a crowd of OEMs that find what you term a paper media filter to be perfectly good for drains that may run well in excess of 10K, in the case of some for two such OCIs, but what do they know?...

True that. And some them use "paper" (cardboard/fiber) endcaps too.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

The CF410 is one of Hastings' cheaper filters, Casite.

The premium Hastings filter is LF410

I'd use an LF410 for 10k, but not the CF410.

 

[goodtimes]

It uses a nitrile adbv, not as important with base up, but still has it. You may want to look into Denso 150-1001 for high quality and low price, if you look around for deals. There are no efficiency tables to study, but they are high quality filters.

 

[Bigdaddyeasy]

You cam get a really good deal on Hastings filters on rock auto. The same with mhale or Mann.
I got several cartridge Mann filters for like $1.30 a piece.buy alot at once cuz u gotta pay shipping too.

 

[Hessam]

Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Anyone running 15,000 mile OCI's in their BMW has to be leasing.

I'd recommend an intermediate change between the dealer changes if you are still under the service program.

The only oil filters to use in your BMW are German built Mann and Mahle.

Stay away from FRAM, Purolator, etc.

I would trust Wix in a pinch but why roll the dice.

Mann and Mahle filters are easy to buy inexpensively on Amazon.


The BMW branded filters I got from the dealership for my 330Xi were Mann made in mexico. I actually found the same part at Advance (mann brand), and those were made in Germany... but believe it or not the BMW branded (mann made filters in mexico) were of higher quality than the german made mann branded ones I got from AAP. The BMW ones had almost identical pleat spacing, and zero overflow of the resin at top and bottom of the filter. The german made ones had very inconsistent spacing in several areas, and clearly had overflow of the resin at top and bottom of the filter housing.

I don't think you can really go by where something is made these days. As long as it's a major brand name, they can make it on the Moon for all I care... i know they will have enough quality control measures in place to not put out a bad product with their name on it.

 

[stchman]

The Hastings filters are not rated for 10K. If you want to go that long, then use one of the following:

Amsoil Ea
Fram Ultra
Mobil 1 Extended Performance
Royal Purple

There may be other filters that are rated for 10K or longer as well.

 

[ZeeOSix]

^^^ Also:

Purolator full synthetic (PSL)
WIX XP / NAPA Platinum (have low efficiency though)

 

[slacktide_bitog]

^^^ And Wix XP/Napa Platinum

Bosch Distance Plus is good too

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

WOW! Hastings oil filters. I have not thought much about them since the last time I installed one. It was in 1984 when I worked at my uncles gas station and tire store part time. An ATF agent brought his '62 Caddy in for an OCI and wanted to use his own filter, which was a Hastings.
How long has Hastings and Baldwin been the same company? When my dad had his own heavy equipment business he used Baldwin filters exclusively. Every now and then, WIX or FRAM. I never knew Hastings was owned by Baldwin, or vice versa.