Thermostat in winter

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I'd like to ask about thermostats in winter.
I am told that for any make / model there is just ONE approved or recommended thermostat; that deviation from what GM has approved is unwise.
I note that upon starting, the temp will slowly but surely climb to just a tick under 90 C (maybe 205-210 F) and then back down after it's open. It seems to be electronicly controlled because I can 'trick' it into getting up that hi again by shutting the engine off a few mins.
I am inclined that this fall, to get a higher-temp 'stat because this thing does not throw out enough heat. I hold the fan and temp controls down to make 100% sure they are both maxxed out, and leave them like that ALL the time and I never get hot (nor am I wimpy about the cold. Haven't worn long johns in years. The mitts that take D cells in them have remained on the shelf all winter) ....Since the engine is under 25,000 km I'm jumping to conclusions that flushing the cooling system or heater core will be a tad pointless, but I am open to being corrected.
IF ever it is warm out and the temp gets higher than it has ever been, I am prepared to crank the heat and roll down the windows (like the trick when it's blazing hot in summer and the temp guage gets hi)...apart from that is there any harm anyone can think of about a thermostat hitting (and secondly, staying at) 220 F in a Manitoba Dec, Jan, or Feb??
BTW where do you stand on 'winterfronts' for cars and the poor man's version, namely cardboard: I had a real legitimate mechanic install a piece of cardboard as a 'winterfront' as long as I made a point of coming back in spring.
Feb CAN be just as bad as Jan here; and whoever said "beware the ides of March" surely didn't live HERE (or it would be "Beware the ides of JUNE
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) but the hardest part is over.
BTW it was the worst cold snap since '66 and that's before my time.
Cheers
Rob
 
Thermostats are mechanically controlled by a little wax pellet that expands and jams open a valve. I have seen lousy ones get "sticky" and the gauge will swing around. New in box thermostats can be poorly made from the factory. If a heavy duty version will fit your car, go for it!

People sometimes fit cooler temp thermostats for performance reasons but I don't see many running hotter ones. Factory thermostats are quite hot for emissions reasons. When it's below -20'C it seems just the air running under the hood (and engine heat all leaving via heater core) is enough to keep things below optimal temp. So the cardboard over most of the radiator is a reasonable trick. One sees these canvases on 18 wheelers and school busses, and they must be well engineered and maintained, right?
 
I run a 160stat in my modified 96 Caprice, 140K with the dreaded Dexcool(first flush at 96K) and I have to move the fan off low when the temp approaches zeroF, at -15F I did use 3rd fan setting(out of 4), stock in this car is fairly low at 180. If you are having heat issues with a stock stat I think it at least worth the time to flush the core, for awhile GM was putting some pellets in the cooling system aimed at preventing leaks before they started, this was blamed for many a clogged heatercore and contributed to the bad rap Dexcool gets.
 
Thge factory one (195 F ?? ) should be fine. Replace it with another one. Thermostats go bad. Make sure you test the new one in boiling water. Hang it off of wire and dunk it in. I usually them put the water back in the micro wave after the first dunk bc the thermostat cools the water too much.
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Many thermostates are bad right out of the box
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Originally posted by eljefino:
Thermostats are mechanically controlled by a little wax pellet that expands and jams open a valve. I have seen lousy ones get "sticky"

I learned about those years back in hi school automotive industrial arts, I thought they had evolved a tad since then!
School buses and 18 wheelers are Diesels. I was told that if you let a Diesel idle extensively it will tend to over-heat, even in winter; whereas a gasoline engine will under-heat and be inefficient or stall. Not that I believe that totally....
Keep in mind I am not happy with the stuff blowing out of the vents, either. Also keep in mind that Thurs has a high of -7°C / 19°F so while I still want to learn, and plan for 10 months from now, the crisis is largely over....
Thanks
Rob
 
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