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I recently saw a show about physics and Einsteins quest to relate gravity with electromagnetism. The show was on PBS and was about a new hypothesis called string theory. Basically, physicists have done all their calculations and they've concluded that everything is composed of tiny (as in bazillions of times smaller than even an electron) packets of energy called strings. The catch to this? If their math is correct, then there is actually 11 dimensions (in addition to our familier 3 dimensions + time) and infinetally more universes out there where every probability that does not occur in "our" universe, has to occur in another one. Basically they're saying that because we can't walk through walls in our universe, there has to be another universe where that's possible.
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Fascinating stuff! Anyone else catch that show? That kind of stuff just boggles my mind. *** am I worrying about oil at this moment in "time"
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Some of the most radical theories in Physics are pretty incredible. Maybe UFOs could be explained (along with some other strange events) by someone or something in some other dimension being able to readily come into our more limited dimension.

If some of the theories people have come up with in Physics are correct, there may be no some thing as time and the Universe we seem to observe is just like an illusion.
 
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Originally posted by Mystic:
Some of the most radical theories in Physics are pretty incredible. Maybe UFOs could be explained (along with some other strange events) by someone or something in some other dimension being able to readily come into our more limited dimension.

If some of the theories people have come up with in Physics are correct, there may be no some thing as time and the Universe we seem to observe is just like an illusion.


Hey Mystic, the thing about string theory is the math backs it up. The only logical conclusions they can draw by continuing with Einsteins quest for a unifying "theory of everything" is string theory, but for the math to be completely in balance, there has to be all these new dimensions and universes. Why the **** didn't I end up in the universe where you can walk on water!
 
Drew,
you can, and I have on a number of occassions walk on water.

It's a little less frequently available down under, but still with the appropriate timing, and a little common sense you can do it.
 
One thing I am very sure of, what with all of the strange experiences I have had in my lifetime, is that the Universe has greater depth then many people think. But I agree, it would be nice being the higher dimension guy who can travel freely in and out of the lower dimensions! Boy, did we ever lose out or what?
 
Drew - If that little bit of info gets you going, you will find out there is a lot more where that came from. For starters check out the movie "What the Bleep Do We Know" (whatthebleep.com). I believe it is still playing in Denver, although it's time may be short.
 
Strange but true.

Yeah... I have no proof to offer.... only my word that what I describe actually did happen and I was present and, to this day, I wonder what the heck our equipment detected.

Approximately 600 miles south southwest of Oahu, steaming at 15 knots. Seas calm, no other surface vessels present according to our radars.

Around 3 am (okay.... 0300 hours) and I am one of 2 people standing watch in the sonar shack. We were inactive.... not "pinging," in the "listen mode" where we only monitor the sounds already present in the water.

One of our units provided a visual representation of the ambient sound on slowly-moving paper. The paper display was more sensitive than what showed up on the CRT display and would often show sounds we could not pick out from other ambient noises we could hear through the headsets or the speakers mounted on the bulkheads.

I noticed an odd printout on the paper and began investigating it. The other sonar tech began processing the odd noise using other equipment. Due to the "oddness" of the sound we flipped on the recorder.

We used every piece of equipment and software program available to us. The noise was definitely not natural.... not a biological source. We requested the bridge to stop the ship's engines to increase the sensitivity of our instruments. They agreed to our unusual request. Oh, those were the Cold War years and the Rooskies were definite enemies. As the ship slowed to a stop and the engines and steam turbines throttled back we garnered more data.

Describing the contact the officer of the deck granted us permission to go active, to "ping" and gather the data that method would offer. The request was seldom asked for or granted since we wanted to minimize the amount of data that Rooskies could gather about our sonar, that happened to be the latest & greatest stuff afloat a surface ship at that time.

Cranking up the critter we outputted over 200,000 watts RMS of audio power (exact amount still classified the last I heard). Immediately, every swinging **** aboard our ship was wide awake!!!! Hee hee. Loud is an understatement. You could feel the sound as much as hear it.

We correlated the info, ran it through the computers, backed it up with calculations made with pencil and paper and ran all the data again. Others checked and rechecked. There was no doubt. The contact was at least 3,000 feet below the surface and went deeper as its speed increased. We lost the contact around 7,000 feet down and it had incresed its speed to a minimum of 65 knots and our data indicated a final speed before contact was lost of 90+ knots.

At that time there was no known man-made craft capable of performing those feats. Here it is, 40 years later, and there has been NO hints of ANY human vessel capable of doing what that contact did, even with today's technology.

Our active sonar gave NO indication the contact was biological. I have tracked whales, masses of plankton, submarines etc. and none of them exhibited the properties our sensors observed or met the parameters involved. We considered the possibility it was a giant squid but the echo returns were too darn solid for a biological contact.

Our division officer took the tape, sealed it with a "top secret" label and it went into the safe. The next Navy base we entered we were met by three officers, 2 packing .45s in holsters, who signed for and carried off that tape. We never heard a word about that tape from outside sources.

The incident was hashed and rehashed by us sonar dudes. Of course we could not prove what the contact was but most agreed to the POSSIBILITY the contact MAY have been something originating from another planet. We did not give that explanation a high probability but, due to the many odd characteristices of the contact, the POSSIBILITY exists.

To this day I wonder....... what the heck was that thing?????!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
The string theory has been around for 20 years or so and has fallen in and out and in favor. It really has a lot of hurtles before it becomes widely accepted by Quantum Physicists. The problem is that there are two pieces of quantum Theory..QED (Quantum Electro Dynamics) which explains the weak forces (outside the nucleus) and QCD Quantum Chromo Dynamics (Srrong forces inside the nucleus The problem is than neither of them explain Gravity

The Holy Grail today is the "GUT" Grand Unification Theory that Einstein and all others have failed to come up with. It would Unite (or replace) QCD and QED and eplain Gravity.

I have read at least a dozen Quantum books in the last 4 years and unfortunately I don't have the intelligence or the math to be able to understand the formulas. Some of the books I have purchased are just sitting there bc I can't understand the math.

But anyway..The absolute best book on the subject which will let you see things you absoluteluy won't believe is:

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Quantum

If you think you have any interest at all..this is the Book to start with.
 
There is a tendency in every age for some people to think that the human race has reached the highest level of technology and knowledge possible. And as soon as some people start saying, 'Well, these are the limits of technology and human knowledge,' somebody somewhere goes beyond those limits. Twenty or fifty years from now some of our best technology might be considered pretty crude by the people who will be living in that future.

I have seen some strange stuff in my life. I am not ashamed to say that I saw UFOs-objects that I am totally unable to explain. You ever see something strange like that your viewpoint of the Universe will be changed. There is more depth, more mystery out there then we can imagine at this time. We have only begun the journey.
 
mystic,
good post.

Newton came up with a way of describing his universe, using the tools available to him.

Einstein did similar, and got what looks very dis-similar, until you approximate V/C to be zero, and then the picture changes.

I reckon that one day we will find Einstein's theories to be a subset of a greater system.
 
Hey Shannow, you think that in one of these other dimensions, they can supply us with enough oil so we can drive our SUV's for a while longer?
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Heck, once we break out of our "flatland" view of our three dimensional trap ...and can perceive the "scrolled space" ...then a trip across the galaxy should yield 35^10 mpg when you convert it back to space normal.
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(visions of Dune and the Navigator's Guild ..or..where did I leave my warp field generator?)
 
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Heck, once we break out of our "flatland" view of our three dimensional trap ...and can perceive the "scrolled space" ...then a trip across the galaxy should yield 35^10 mpg when you convert it back to space normal.
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(visions of Dune and the Navigator's Guild ..or..where did I leave my warp field generator?)


Gary,
we were having a meeting at work a while back on managing travelling between the two power stations (about 10 miles apart), and productivity.

I drew a map, folded it just right, and suggested that we put a simple 20m long flyover between the common office and the remote turbine houses.

Didn't go down overly well...managers have no imagination.

(I DID borrow the concept from Stephen King)
 
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