wemay
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Our son is 8 and (thank goodness) loves the 80's. I know, and dread, that this will likely change.
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The Real Reason Why Music Is Getting Worse
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I remember seeing Taylor Swift introduced at the Opry. She played guitar and sang a nice song she wrote. No one knew who she was but she sounded great, the song was good and I thought that young woman is going to become a star. Then somebody got ahold of her and she sold her soul for money and fame. She's 100% phony.
This has been true for many years with most types of pop and country music. Probably rock as well.
Our kids definitely got their music influence from my wife and I (more me, even my wife will admit). Here's a sample of a Spotify playlist our daughter made
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wemay
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Haha, yes, same here. Our son's playlist includes:Our kids definitely got their music influence from my wife and I (more me, even my wife will admit). Here's a sample of a Spotify playlist our daughter made
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Michael Jackson
Duran Duran
Flock of Seagulls (which he plays on the piano)
A ha
Tears for Fears
Depeche Mode
Thompson Twins
Afrika Bambaataa
INXS
Eddy Grant (only Electric Avenue)
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Mozart was considered background music and Shakespeare was considered just lowly stand up comedy back in the days. I have heard about the praise of "Le Petit Prince" when I was a kid and then I read it as a middle age man. It was just a healing process written by a patient. It was creative but there is nothing superior.
Tu Pac was considered "not a music" by non teen and outsider of Gangster Rap back in the 90s. I suspect there were a lot of money launderings using gangster raps in disguised as well. He is now considered a hero of the genre. Same thing is happening to K Pop.
I don't think I have much talent in art and music but my parents met in Art school. They had the training and some of their classmates ended up being famous in the art circle. My grandfather was an art teacher and my uncle decided to pursue art by going to Paris and made a living as an art teacher. I do appreciate art, but I don't have the desire or patient to pursue it.
One thing I have learned from others, and felt based on what I observed in myself and others, is that about 75% of what we considered beautiful and nice is really a biological desire, 20% is about social status, and 5% is our expert experience in a certain area.
This is why sexually appealing artist do significantly better than a non-attractive one (Korean artists weren't successful until Korean plastic surgery became the #1 in the world). This is also why they need to look successful (Bling out SUVs, guns, fancy pickup trucks, fancy sport cars, spacious apartment in NYC, youthful lifestyle). I'm sure there are great musicians and garbage alike out there but the odds are much lower than those albums or concert tickets sold by sex appeals.
I don't find K Pop great music, nor music prior to 90s except a few mo-town music. However I can understand why people like them.
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"What I like is best and what I don't like has no merit"
I'm no doubt very familiar with all of those other than the "Afrika..." one, our daughter would only be into MJ and Depeche Mode from those.
That is a great list of 80's pop hits. I like every one of those groups.
I am 73. That noise that is mostly just thump, thump, thump and usually played way to loud is not music. I think that covers almost everything that is supposed to be current music.
Moody Blues, Chicago Transit Authority, Crosby, Stills and Nash, Led Zeppelin (Stairway to Heaven, Misty Mountain Hop), Niel Diamond, Gordon Lightfoot, etc. even the Monkees and Partridge Family, that is music.
Moody Blues, Chicago Transit Authority, Crosby, Stills and Nash, Led Zeppelin (Stairway to Heaven, Misty Mountain Hop), Niel Diamond, Gordon Lightfoot, etc. even the Monkees and Partridge Family, that is music.
Newer Kpop is mostly garbage. Wasn't the case 10-15 years ago. Ailee, Hyolyn, Eunji and others have real talent that surpassed most western artists. There used to be a real appreciation of skill there, but that has nearly all evaporated now as "brand" has become more important.
This is a recent performance of a main singer of a Kpop group popular 10 years ago:
None of the newer artists can approach this.
This is a recent performance of a main singer of a Kpop group popular 10 years ago:
None of the newer artists can approach this.
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I like music with analog instruments. Many of the popular singers nowadays is someone just belching out words with electronic sounds.
I'm sure a lot of K-Pop artists have talents, as you've pointed out with that video. Fantastic singer.
If I'm being critical, I see K-Pop (genre) as just copying, borrowing what's already been done decades ago but adding "merch" and fandom and their own Korean spin on it. Nothing wrong with it and some of the songs can be catchy. It's a different approach to music.
In the docu series "K Everything", the Korean expert on K-Pop said it's basically influenced by western artists and styles - R&B, rock/pop. But most things are derived from something existing beforehand so it's not unusual. Most artists were influenced by someone.
In the series, not once did they show any artist with an instrument. They were always sitting behind a computer.
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As we all seen and read the stories, Hollywood and the music business is phony by forcing people to do exactly what they want or they'll get outcasted. See: Harvey Weinstein, Jame Levine, and R Kelly for a few examples.
Classical only for me.
watch her tiny bench performance on npr
Very different than her commercial work
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