Higher pressure cooling system with electric water pump, run on demand only. Insulated hot water storage for next startup like a Prius. System completely sealed for life.
The Internal Combustion Engine of 2030
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Originally Posted By: horse123
So this isn't really "what might happen in 15 years" it's more of "what I wish I had in a car right now", sound about right OP?
No. With every redesign, engines are getting more complex. I really do expect to see all these features being ubiquitous in 10-15 years. At some point, the ICE will become too complex to affordably maintain and repair. At that point, pure electric cars and fuel cell cars will be simpler.
So this isn't really "what might happen in 15 years" it's more of "what I wish I had in a car right now", sound about right OP?
No. With every redesign, engines are getting more complex. I really do expect to see all these features being ubiquitous in 10-15 years. At some point, the ICE will become too complex to affordably maintain and repair. At that point, pure electric cars and fuel cell cars will be simpler.
Originally Posted By: CT8
a) Electronically controlled valves………….
I can see how that could make a big improvement in combustion efficiency, especially if done in conduction with compression ignition. Perhaps it would even make the engine simpler, instead of more complex.
a) Electronically controlled valves………….
I can see how that could make a big improvement in combustion efficiency, especially if done in conduction with compression ignition. Perhaps it would even make the engine simpler, instead of more complex.
Depressing thoughts of where ICE's are headed.
Originally Posted By: Nate1979
How about no motor oil needed?
Noooooooooo!
How about no motor oil needed?
Noooooooooo!
Engines with "lifetime" oil or engines that require
Tiny displacement engines in different vehicle categories <1.0L in sub and compacts, <1.7L in midsize, fullsize sedans, CUV's, and compact pickups, <2.5L in fullize pickups and base engine heavy duty trucks.
Tiny displacement engines in different vehicle categories <1.0L in sub and compacts, <1.7L in midsize, fullsize sedans, CUV's, and compact pickups, <2.5L in fullize pickups and base engine heavy duty trucks.
Originally Posted By: dishdude
2030? With the way battery technology is advancing, I think we'll be driving electric cars.
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2030? With the way battery technology is advancing, I think we'll be driving electric cars.
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By 2030 my car will be a Tesla no more gas for me at least on the road.
Also when I build my house I'll put a nice solar grid on the roof so free juice as well.
Gas engines will have to be to complicated to compete, electric motors are just such simple devices.
Also when I build my house I'll put a nice solar grid on the roof so free juice as well.
Gas engines will have to be to complicated to compete, electric motors are just such simple devices.
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Originally Posted By: madRiver
Relic of the past.
Someone will invent a long charge battery with quick charge.
I hope by then that an auto drive car will pick me up and take me where I want to go and then leave until called.
I agree with this, new battery designs come out every few years that make the previous generations of batteries look like they run on coal.
A less exciting, more civillian electric car than the insanely fast Teslas would use and need a lot less power and could even efficiently be charged through solar power at your own house
Tesla should make a small, affordable electric compact/hatchback with a solar panel roof. Make it perform more like a gasoline hatchback instead of a Ferrari and it could have a great range and not use much power to charge
Go to Tesla's website or google model X and model 3.
Originally Posted By: madRiver
Relic of the past.
Someone will invent a long charge battery with quick charge.
I hope by then that an auto drive car will pick me up and take me where I want to go and then leave until called.
I agree with this, new battery designs come out every few years that make the previous generations of batteries look like they run on coal.
A less exciting, more civillian electric car than the insanely fast Teslas would use and need a lot less power and could even efficiently be charged through solar power at your own house
Tesla should make a small, affordable electric compact/hatchback with a solar panel roof. Make it perform more like a gasoline hatchback instead of a Ferrari and it could have a great range and not use much power to charge
Go to Tesla's website or google model X and model 3.
I don't know if Tesla will survived as independent car company by 2025-2030, they may be bought out by other car company.
By 2030 most work places, shopping centers, hotels, restaurants ... will have quick-chargers, they may be free to use or they may charge a nominal fee.
By 2030 most work places, shopping centers, hotels, restaurants ... will have quick-chargers, they may be free to use or they may charge a nominal fee.
Honestly.....today's engines are still using tech from the first of the 20th century. Direct fuel injection is as old as a certain carpenter with a pet Dodo bird. Turbo and supercharging, same story. Only thing I see '30 model cars having different from '15 model cars are electric solenoid controlled valves and perhaps ceramic castings like blocks and heads. Oil, maybe a lifetime fill or 20K OCI's with full "synthetic". Big oil is too big and powerful for electric cars to dominate the field, and that isn't an opinion. Why have lifetime fills when they can sell motor oil and gasoline and diesel? I'd be pushing to keep electric car growth stunted if I headed Shell or XOM.
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Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Also when I build my house I'll put a nice solar grid on the roof so free juice as well.
Nothing's free. Wait until solar panels on the roof are both mandated and taxed as part of annual property taxes.
Also when I build my house I'll put a nice solar grid on the roof so free juice as well.
Nothing's free. Wait until solar panels on the roof are both mandated and taxed as part of annual property taxes.
My 2003 Mazda requires 3L of oil per change. That's about 3.5 quarts.
Originally Posted By: wirelessF
Engines with "lifetime" oil or engines that require
Tiny displacement engines in different vehicle categories div>
Originally Posted By: wirelessF
Engines with "lifetime" oil or engines that require
Tiny displacement engines in different vehicle categories div>
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Also when I build my house I'll put a nice solar grid on the roof so free juice as well.
Nothing's free. Wait until solar panels on the roof are both mandated and taxed as part of annual property taxes.
That's Ok, they already are taxed in my area as an upgrade.
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Also when I build my house I'll put a nice solar grid on the roof so free juice as well.
Nothing's free. Wait until solar panels on the roof are both mandated and taxed as part of annual property taxes.
That's Ok, they already are taxed in my area as an upgrade.
Originally Posted By: Nate1979
How about no motor oil needed?
Another reason to go electric!
How about no motor oil needed?
Another reason to go electric!
Engines are fast approaching zero lifetime maintenance. It's going to happen and happen soon. The newer generation of upcoming drivers will not be burdened with things like looking under the hood or being left to decide when to do periodic maintenance. Drivers will be notified by the vehicle for required service and be directed to a licensed facility.
Gone forever are the days when drivers were advised to remove the cylinder head every 1,000 miles to remove carbon and change their oil every 200 miles and to be careful to choose a light, clear oil that flowed through the paper funnel viscometer at the correct rate and never leave water in the radiator overnight in cold weather.
Gone forever are the days when drivers were advised to remove the cylinder head every 1,000 miles to remove carbon and change their oil every 200 miles and to be careful to choose a light, clear oil that flowed through the paper funnel viscometer at the correct rate and never leave water in the radiator overnight in cold weather.
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