That is the drill pipe within the riser. THere are three products coming out, Produced water(water from the formation), Crude oil and natural gas.
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Not all regulations work, and not all are necessary. You can't lump all regulations into one category.
Just read what Noam Chomsky and some of the top economists have been saying about market fundamentalism. You would have to go back really far to even find true free market economics and at that point it's hard to compare that world to today.
Not all regulations work, and not all are necessary. You can't lump all regulations into one category.
Just read what Noam Chomsky and some of the top economists have been saying about market fundamentalism. You would have to go back really far to even find true free market economics and at that point it's hard to compare that world to today.
Thanks - I figured it's not all crude. So this week the will try to pump drilling mud in? What kind of pump for that?
Man - need ideas.......
Man - need ideas.......
33 days...
Start drilling the 21" pipe and tapping into it with 2"-4" pipes manifolded to one larger up pipe going up to tankers. Then when most/all the flow can be diverted, plug the broken end with drilling mud.
Of course I don't know jack about drilling for oil - the well pressure must be extreme - considering the pressure at 5000 below!
Of course I don't know jack about drilling for oil - the well pressure must be extreme - considering the pressure at 5000 below!
I guess the oil and gas are buoyant! 
Oh yeah - the video has been black for the last few hours.
Oh yeah - the video has been black for the last few hours.
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Thanks - I figured it's not all crude. So this week the will try to pump drilling mud in? What kind of pump for that?
Man - need ideas.......
Drilling mud is pumped though a manifold into the annulus of the pipe via the BOP that is acting as the wellhead during drilling operations. The Mud is basically blended at a specific gravity to overcome the downhole pressure. For example a 12# mud can be used to overcome the pressure by using the gravity of the mud against the pressure of the fluids rising from the formation.. if enough mud can be pumped down the wellbore hole to overcome the formation pressure the flow will stop. I hopew that was as clear as mud
Thanks - I figured it's not all crude. So this week the will try to pump drilling mud in? What kind of pump for that?
Man - need ideas.......
Drilling mud is pumped though a manifold into the annulus of the pipe via the BOP that is acting as the wellhead during drilling operations. The Mud is basically blended at a specific gravity to overcome the downhole pressure. For example a 12# mud can be used to overcome the pressure by using the gravity of the mud against the pressure of the fluids rising from the formation.. if enough mud can be pumped down the wellbore hole to overcome the formation pressure the flow will stop. I hopew that was as clear as mud
Wow--alot of oil is gone now.....just think how much there gonna raise there prices and blame it on this.
What's the rig over the pipe right now???
Everyone must see these photos!
Truly amazing and gives you a sense of what the shoreline looks like:
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/oil_reaches_louisiana_shores.html
Truly amazing and gives you a sense of what the shoreline looks like:
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/oil_reaches_louisiana_shores.html
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Everyone must see these photos!
Truly amazing and gives you a sense of what the shoreline looks like:
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/oil_reaches_louisiana_shores.html
wow.
Everyone must see these photos!
Truly amazing and gives you a sense of what the shoreline looks like:
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/oil_reaches_louisiana_shores.html
wow.
Amazing eh? Give a sense of the impact of the stuff there. Really, quite sad.
"BP said it may cut through the leaking pipeline attached to the blowout preventer at the well head and attach a lower marine riser package that would divert the leaking oil to a ship at the surface."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704026204575265701607603066.html?mod=WSJ_WSJ_US_News_3
They also are now drilling relief wells! Seriously? They are still more concerned with getting the oil then plugging the well.
This deal was serious 2 weeks ago - no it's just outright ludicrous that the federal government has not stepped in and put the wrath of god down on BP to PERMANENTLY seal this well and never again attempt to recover oil from this area.
Apparently it's going to take poll numbers to drop below 40 for anything to get done...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704026204575265701607603066.html?mod=WSJ_WSJ_US_News_3
They also are now drilling relief wells! Seriously? They are still more concerned with getting the oil then plugging the well.
This deal was serious 2 weeks ago - no it's just outright ludicrous that the federal government has not stepped in and put the wrath of god down on BP to PERMANENTLY seal this well and never again attempt to recover oil from this area.
Apparently it's going to take poll numbers to drop below 40 for anything to get done...
The relief wells aren't about production, they are about relieving some of the pressure on the blown out well.
BP understands, and you apparently dont, sealing the well permanently that is leaking, has no bearing on further development of that field. BP has no incentive to keep that particular well active, they can drill anywhere on that field, just as the relief wells show.
Seems your concern is that no further exploration goes on, why is that? Where does all your oil come from?
BP understands, and you apparently dont, sealing the well permanently that is leaking, has no bearing on further development of that field. BP has no incentive to keep that particular well active, they can drill anywhere on that field, just as the relief wells show.
Seems your concern is that no further exploration goes on, why is that? Where does all your oil come from?
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The relief wells aren't about production, they are about relieving some of the pressure on the blown out well.
BP understands, and you apparently dont, sealing the well permanently that is leaking, has no bearing on further development of that field. BP has no incentive to keep that particular well active, they can drill anywhere on that field, just as the relief wells show.
Seems your concern is that no further exploration goes on, why is that? Where does all your oil come from?
My concern is that someone fix this situation yesterday. My concern is also that BP's negligence should force them out of business.
No where did I state anything about "no further exploration".
BP has messed around for over a month now and they're still talking about diverting the oil up to tankers. Pretty obvious where their intentions still are.
The relief wells aren't about production, they are about relieving some of the pressure on the blown out well.
BP understands, and you apparently dont, sealing the well permanently that is leaking, has no bearing on further development of that field. BP has no incentive to keep that particular well active, they can drill anywhere on that field, just as the relief wells show.
Seems your concern is that no further exploration goes on, why is that? Where does all your oil come from?
My concern is that someone fix this situation yesterday. My concern is also that BP's negligence should force them out of business.
No where did I state anything about "no further exploration".
BP has messed around for over a month now and they're still talking about diverting the oil up to tankers. Pretty obvious where their intentions still are.
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Seems your concern is that no further exploration goes on, why is that? Where does all your oil come from?
Can you "remote view" any more intell into the inner workings of his mind?? Boxers or briefs?? Anything else??
Seems your concern is that no further exploration goes on, why is that? Where does all your oil come from?
Drew,
I would gladly lay out the technical problems and the effort to resolve the spill if you ask. If you have already made up your mind I won't bother.
As for your assertion, the diversion to tankers is about economic gain over stopping the spill. . Obviously you understand nothing about the lack of cost effectiveness of that mindset. From the environmental impact perspective every drop of oil that is diverted to tankage is not going into the ocean. The cost effectiveness of this during this effort is as follows. 9 million dollars a day worth of outgo into the incident response, the income from the tankage is 400k a day.
Does that make sense that BP has not closed this up so that they can make more money? The oil industries are the only ones with the capability of fixing this problem.
Coast Guard’s Allen Says He Trusts BP in Spill Effort (Update1)
May 23, 2010, 5:20 PM EDT
By Edward Klump
May 23 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Coast Guard Commandant Thad Allen said he trusts BP Plc’s chief executive officer as the company and government prepare their latest effort to stop the oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico from a damaged BP well.
The government is keeping a close watch over BP’s response to the oil spill, Allen said today on CNN’s “State of the Union.” When U.S. officials give BP Chief Executive Officer Tony Hayward directions on problems, logistics or coordination, they get a prompt reply, he said.
“I trust Tony Hayward,” Allen said. “When I talk to him, I get an answer.”
U.S. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar took a tougher line after visiting with the scientific team working on plugging the well at BP’s Houston offices today. “Since the incident began, I promised that we would keep our boot on BP’s neck and in the past few weeks we have absolutely been doing that,” he said.
“I am angry and I am frustrated that BP has been unable to stop this well from leaking and to stop the pollution from spreading,” Salazar said. “We are 33 days into this effort, and deadline after deadline has been missed.”
BP, based in London, said it will likely begin by early May 26 local time to try to plug the well by pumping it full of heavy drilling mud, a method it calls “top kill.” The method has been successful in wells on land, but has never been tried under these circumstances, where the well is leaking a mile deep under water.
Captured Oil
As it prepares its top kill effort, BP continues to divert some of the leaking crude to a ship using a mile-long pipe. BP captured about 1,360 barrels of oil yesterday, down from 2,200 barrels May 21, said John Curry, a company spokesman. The company has captured an average of about 2,010 barrels of oil a day since May 17, Mark Salt, a company spokesman, said in an interview today.
BP’s well was damaged in an April 20 explosion aboard the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig that killed 11 workers.
Allen, of the Coast Guard, said on CNN that the leaking well has become a “very large, complicated spill.” Officials are concerned about oil washing ashore around Port Fourchon in Louisiana, he said, and tar balls showing up as far east as Alabama and Mississippi.
Allen said responders are “fighting a multi-front war.” Also today, investigators asked Gulf residents to look for debris from the Deepwater Horizon rig that might wash up on shore and be useful in examining the accident.
Official Oversight
Three of President Barack Obama’s top officials plan to be in the Gulf Coast region this week, including Salazar, Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa Jackson and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano. Obama yesterday named Democrat Bob Graham, a former Florida governor, and Republican William Reilly, a former EPA administrator, to lead a commission to investigate the spill.
Salazar said BP is responsible for such activities as stopping the well and keeping oil from coming ashore.
“If we find that they’re not doing what they’re supposed to be doing, we’ll push them out of the way appropriately and we’ll move forward to make sure that everything is being done to protect the people of the Gulf Coast, the ecological values of the Gulf Coast and the values of the American people,” he said.
‘Top Kill’ Preparations
Drilling rigs and remote-operated vehicles are being positioned for the top kill attempt, Doug Suttles, BP’s chief operating officer for exploration and production, said at a May 21 news conference in Louisiana.
“This is a really complex operation, it involves several complex procedures coming together,” BP’s Salt said today in a telephone interview. “We continue with planning, preps, getting stuff on site, getting stuff on the sea bed, on the surface, testing things.”
The procedure is intended to stop the flow and allow the well to be sealed with cement, Suttles said. The well is about 5,000 feet (1,524 meters) below the water’s surface.
If the top kill method fails to halt the spill, BP has “a series of activities” to try, BP Managing Director Robert Dudley said today, also on CNN’s “State of the Union.” He said another containment device could be put over the leak to recover oil until a relief well is ready in August. Dudley called the spill “catastrophic” for Gulf Coast residents and the company.
A team of government and academic scientists may report this week how much oil is leaking from the well, after independent scientists told Congress the crude was coming out at more than 10 times the 5,000-barrel-a-day estimate BP and the government have given since April 28.
‘Best Estimate’
BP says the 5,000 barrel-a-day rate remains the “best estimate” so far of the amount coming from the well.
The company also has been using Nalco Holding Co.’s Corexit oil dispersant to break the oil into small droplets that may eventually be digested by microbes. About 785,000 gallons of dispersant have been deployed in the region, according to BP and government officials’ Unified Command.
--With assistance from Jim Polson in New York, Mark Chediak in San Francisco and Dan Hart and Nicholas Johnston in Washington. Editors: Susan Warren, Theo Mullen. To contact the reporter on this story: Edward Klump in Houston at [email protected] To contact the editor responsible for this story: Susan Warren at [email protected].
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BP Exhausting All Means Possible on Leak, Allen Says (Update3)
May 24, 2010, 4:11 PM EDT
By Edwin Chen and Kim Chipman
May 24 (Bloomberg) -- The federal government is making sure BP Plc is doing all it can to stop the company’s oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, U.S. Coast Guard Commandant Thad Allen said.
He said only the private sector has expertise on a leak at that depth, and the company is “exhausting every technical means possible to deal with that leak.” BP is seeking to seal the well, which is about 5,000 feet (1,524 meters) underwater.
Allen briefed reporters at the White House today amid questions about whether the Obama administration has reacted forcefully and swiftly enough to contain the oil spill.
In response to a reporter’s question, Allen said that “to push BP out of the way would raise a question: replace them with what?”
“We need to make sure they execute their responsibilities because they are the responsible party,” Allen said. “We are accountable from the federal government to make sure they do it.”
President Barack Obama is “still frustrated” that the leak is continuing, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said at the briefing. Allen said that the U.S. is “exerting more pressure” on the company to stem the leak from the April 20 well explosion and clean up the spill.
“We ask a lot of hard questions” of BP, Allen said
Asked if there’s a blame game going on, Allen replied, “If there is, I’m not playing it.”
Gibbs said Interior Secretary Salazar will deliver his 30- day report on the causes of the spill to Obama by May 27, and the president is likely to speak about it publicly.
Jindal’s Critcism
Earlier today, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal criticized the response to the spill.
“Simply telling us they’re going to come in after the fact and try to clean up is not enough,” he told reporters in Louisiana.
Allen said it would take six to nine months to build barrier islands in the gulf off Louisiana, as requested by Jindal. The request is under consideration, Allen said.
White House energy and environment adviser Carol Browner said there is a moratorium in place on deepwater oil drilling that applies to 23 permits where drilling hasn’t begun.
“We’re going to stop those,” she said. The president said, “no new holes,” she said.
David Axelrod, the president’s top political adviser, responded to critics on MSNBC’s “The Daily Rundown” today, saying that President Barack Obama and his administration “share that sense of urgency, and there is a desire to do something, anything, to intervene here.”
At the same time, Axelrod said, “what we want to make sure is whatever we do is effective and that it will work.”
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said “some forward motion” is evident in efforts to stop the flow of oil from the BP well.
The U.S. will “stay on BP” until the oil leak is stopped, Napolitano said today at a Louisiana news conference.
--Editors: Robin Meszoly, Bill Schmick To contact the reporter on this story: Edwin Chen in Washington at [email protected]; Kim Chipman in Washington at [email protected]. To contact the editors responsible for this story: Mike Tackett at [email protected] and Steve Geimann at [email protected].
I would gladly lay out the technical problems and the effort to resolve the spill if you ask. If you have already made up your mind I won't bother.
As for your assertion, the diversion to tankers is about economic gain over stopping the spill. . Obviously you understand nothing about the lack of cost effectiveness of that mindset. From the environmental impact perspective every drop of oil that is diverted to tankage is not going into the ocean. The cost effectiveness of this during this effort is as follows. 9 million dollars a day worth of outgo into the incident response, the income from the tankage is 400k a day.
Does that make sense that BP has not closed this up so that they can make more money? The oil industries are the only ones with the capability of fixing this problem.
Coast Guard’s Allen Says He Trusts BP in Spill Effort (Update1)
May 23, 2010, 5:20 PM EDT
By Edward Klump
May 23 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Coast Guard Commandant Thad Allen said he trusts BP Plc’s chief executive officer as the company and government prepare their latest effort to stop the oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico from a damaged BP well.
The government is keeping a close watch over BP’s response to the oil spill, Allen said today on CNN’s “State of the Union.” When U.S. officials give BP Chief Executive Officer Tony Hayward directions on problems, logistics or coordination, they get a prompt reply, he said.
“I trust Tony Hayward,” Allen said. “When I talk to him, I get an answer.”
U.S. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar took a tougher line after visiting with the scientific team working on plugging the well at BP’s Houston offices today. “Since the incident began, I promised that we would keep our boot on BP’s neck and in the past few weeks we have absolutely been doing that,” he said.
“I am angry and I am frustrated that BP has been unable to stop this well from leaking and to stop the pollution from spreading,” Salazar said. “We are 33 days into this effort, and deadline after deadline has been missed.”
BP, based in London, said it will likely begin by early May 26 local time to try to plug the well by pumping it full of heavy drilling mud, a method it calls “top kill.” The method has been successful in wells on land, but has never been tried under these circumstances, where the well is leaking a mile deep under water.
Captured Oil
As it prepares its top kill effort, BP continues to divert some of the leaking crude to a ship using a mile-long pipe. BP captured about 1,360 barrels of oil yesterday, down from 2,200 barrels May 21, said John Curry, a company spokesman. The company has captured an average of about 2,010 barrels of oil a day since May 17, Mark Salt, a company spokesman, said in an interview today.
BP’s well was damaged in an April 20 explosion aboard the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig that killed 11 workers.
Allen, of the Coast Guard, said on CNN that the leaking well has become a “very large, complicated spill.” Officials are concerned about oil washing ashore around Port Fourchon in Louisiana, he said, and tar balls showing up as far east as Alabama and Mississippi.
Allen said responders are “fighting a multi-front war.” Also today, investigators asked Gulf residents to look for debris from the Deepwater Horizon rig that might wash up on shore and be useful in examining the accident.
Official Oversight
Three of President Barack Obama’s top officials plan to be in the Gulf Coast region this week, including Salazar, Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa Jackson and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano. Obama yesterday named Democrat Bob Graham, a former Florida governor, and Republican William Reilly, a former EPA administrator, to lead a commission to investigate the spill.
Salazar said BP is responsible for such activities as stopping the well and keeping oil from coming ashore.
“If we find that they’re not doing what they’re supposed to be doing, we’ll push them out of the way appropriately and we’ll move forward to make sure that everything is being done to protect the people of the Gulf Coast, the ecological values of the Gulf Coast and the values of the American people,” he said.
‘Top Kill’ Preparations
Drilling rigs and remote-operated vehicles are being positioned for the top kill attempt, Doug Suttles, BP’s chief operating officer for exploration and production, said at a May 21 news conference in Louisiana.
“This is a really complex operation, it involves several complex procedures coming together,” BP’s Salt said today in a telephone interview. “We continue with planning, preps, getting stuff on site, getting stuff on the sea bed, on the surface, testing things.”
The procedure is intended to stop the flow and allow the well to be sealed with cement, Suttles said. The well is about 5,000 feet (1,524 meters) below the water’s surface.
If the top kill method fails to halt the spill, BP has “a series of activities” to try, BP Managing Director Robert Dudley said today, also on CNN’s “State of the Union.” He said another containment device could be put over the leak to recover oil until a relief well is ready in August. Dudley called the spill “catastrophic” for Gulf Coast residents and the company.
A team of government and academic scientists may report this week how much oil is leaking from the well, after independent scientists told Congress the crude was coming out at more than 10 times the 5,000-barrel-a-day estimate BP and the government have given since April 28.
‘Best Estimate’
BP says the 5,000 barrel-a-day rate remains the “best estimate” so far of the amount coming from the well.
The company also has been using Nalco Holding Co.’s Corexit oil dispersant to break the oil into small droplets that may eventually be digested by microbes. About 785,000 gallons of dispersant have been deployed in the region, according to BP and government officials’ Unified Command.
--With assistance from Jim Polson in New York, Mark Chediak in San Francisco and Dan Hart and Nicholas Johnston in Washington. Editors: Susan Warren, Theo Mullen. To contact the reporter on this story: Edward Klump in Houston at [email protected] To contact the editor responsible for this story: Susan Warren at [email protected].
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BP Exhausting All Means Possible on Leak, Allen Says (Update3)
May 24, 2010, 4:11 PM EDT
By Edwin Chen and Kim Chipman
May 24 (Bloomberg) -- The federal government is making sure BP Plc is doing all it can to stop the company’s oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, U.S. Coast Guard Commandant Thad Allen said.
He said only the private sector has expertise on a leak at that depth, and the company is “exhausting every technical means possible to deal with that leak.” BP is seeking to seal the well, which is about 5,000 feet (1,524 meters) underwater.
Allen briefed reporters at the White House today amid questions about whether the Obama administration has reacted forcefully and swiftly enough to contain the oil spill.
In response to a reporter’s question, Allen said that “to push BP out of the way would raise a question: replace them with what?”
“We need to make sure they execute their responsibilities because they are the responsible party,” Allen said. “We are accountable from the federal government to make sure they do it.”
President Barack Obama is “still frustrated” that the leak is continuing, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said at the briefing. Allen said that the U.S. is “exerting more pressure” on the company to stem the leak from the April 20 well explosion and clean up the spill.
“We ask a lot of hard questions” of BP, Allen said
Asked if there’s a blame game going on, Allen replied, “If there is, I’m not playing it.”
Gibbs said Interior Secretary Salazar will deliver his 30- day report on the causes of the spill to Obama by May 27, and the president is likely to speak about it publicly.
Jindal’s Critcism
Earlier today, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal criticized the response to the spill.
“Simply telling us they’re going to come in after the fact and try to clean up is not enough,” he told reporters in Louisiana.
Allen said it would take six to nine months to build barrier islands in the gulf off Louisiana, as requested by Jindal. The request is under consideration, Allen said.
White House energy and environment adviser Carol Browner said there is a moratorium in place on deepwater oil drilling that applies to 23 permits where drilling hasn’t begun.
“We’re going to stop those,” she said. The president said, “no new holes,” she said.
David Axelrod, the president’s top political adviser, responded to critics on MSNBC’s “The Daily Rundown” today, saying that President Barack Obama and his administration “share that sense of urgency, and there is a desire to do something, anything, to intervene here.”
At the same time, Axelrod said, “what we want to make sure is whatever we do is effective and that it will work.”
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said “some forward motion” is evident in efforts to stop the flow of oil from the BP well.
The U.S. will “stay on BP” until the oil leak is stopped, Napolitano said today at a Louisiana news conference.
--Editors: Robin Meszoly, Bill Schmick To contact the reporter on this story: Edwin Chen in Washington at [email protected]; Kim Chipman in Washington at [email protected]. To contact the editors responsible for this story: Mike Tackett at [email protected] and Steve Geimann at [email protected].
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I will personally do bodily harm to the first enviromentalist that says see what happens to oil rigs on the coast.
Panzerman will probably wear out his weapon long before he is done.
I will personally do bodily harm to the first enviromentalist that says see what happens to oil rigs on the coast.
Panzerman will probably wear out his weapon long before he is done.
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