The "EPA" in its' bureaucratic wisdom, is lowering the permitted sulfur in pump gas. Probably a good think, but cost estimate is near a10 cents a gallon increase. Question is, has a certain part of the "transportation lobby" succeeded in exempting diesel from this?
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The EPA is saying $.01 a gallon...API is saying $.09 a gallon. Same EPA standards are supposed to add $130 per car by 2025.
It's only money, right?
It's only money, right?
Yup. EPA started out with good intentions (like many government agencies) ... now they just seem to hurt pretty much anyone they can.
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
The "EPA" in its' bureaucratic wisdom, is lowering the permitted sulfur in pump gas. Probably a good think, but cost estimate is near a10 cents a gallon increase. Question is, has a certain part of the "transportation lobby" succeeded in exempting diesel from this?
No. The EPA already hit diesel users years ago. They mandated ULSD when particulate traps were introduced in 2007. Ever wonder why diesel costs more than gas now?
The "EPA" in its' bureaucratic wisdom, is lowering the permitted sulfur in pump gas. Probably a good think, but cost estimate is near a10 cents a gallon increase. Question is, has a certain part of the "transportation lobby" succeeded in exempting diesel from this?
No. The EPA already hit diesel users years ago. They mandated ULSD when particulate traps were introduced in 2007. Ever wonder why diesel costs more than gas now?
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
When the government says to expect a 10 cent a gallon increase, figure on it actually being a 30 cent a gallon increase.
+1 That new "healthcare bill" was supposed to be "almost free".
When the government says to expect a 10 cent a gallon increase, figure on it actually being a 30 cent a gallon increase.
+1 That new "healthcare bill" was supposed to be "almost free".
Originally Posted By: A_Harman
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
The "EPA" in its' bureaucratic wisdom, is lowering the permitted sulfur in pump gas. Probably a good think, but cost estimate is near a10 cents a gallon increase. Question is, has a certain part of the "transportation lobby" succeeded in exempting diesel from this?
No. The EPA already hit diesel users years ago. They mandated ULSD when particulate traps were introduced in 2007. Ever wonder why diesel costs more than gas now?
I know the diesel standard was lowered over the objection of a "certain lobby" but could it be lowered any further? What they don't have the turnips to do is deal with sulfur in home heating oil. The poor and downtrodden, and how they VOTE, ya see.
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
The "EPA" in its' bureaucratic wisdom, is lowering the permitted sulfur in pump gas. Probably a good think, but cost estimate is near a10 cents a gallon increase. Question is, has a certain part of the "transportation lobby" succeeded in exempting diesel from this?
No. The EPA already hit diesel users years ago. They mandated ULSD when particulate traps were introduced in 2007. Ever wonder why diesel costs more than gas now?
I know the diesel standard was lowered over the objection of a "certain lobby" but could it be lowered any further? What they don't have the turnips to do is deal with sulfur in home heating oil. The poor and downtrodden, and how they VOTE, ya see.
No greater harm has ever been done in Human History than those actions done in the name of "Good Intentions".
iam so mad i cant say anything
If they could do it without price increases, that would be really, really nice. However, lower sulfur gas is good, and if it's only a couple extra cents, the cost will be minimal in the end for those who do UOAs. The lower sulfur should deplete TBN more slowly, allowing longer OCIs in many vehicles (allowing the owner to spend less on oil).
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Originally Posted By: RamFan
So now that low sulfur fuel is expected in the U.S., something many on this board have wanted, people are going to complain that it comes with a price?
I object to the lowering of any standard just because it makes people "feel good".
So now that low sulfur fuel is expected in the U.S., something many on this board have wanted, people are going to complain that it comes with a price?
I object to the lowering of any standard just because it makes people "feel good".
Originally Posted By: SuperDave456
No greater harm has ever been done in Human History than those actions done in the name of "Good Intentions".
We know where that road goes.
No greater harm has ever been done in Human History than those actions done in the name of "Good Intentions".
We know where that road goes.
Originally Posted By: rslifkin
If they could do it without price increases, that would be really, really nice. However, lower sulfur gas is good, and if it's only a couple extra cents, the cost will be minimal in the end for those who do UOAs. The lower sulfur should deplete TBN more slowly, allowing longer OCIs in many vehicles (allowing the owner to spend less on oil).
I agree it is good, but are OUR refineries able to make the stuff or are we to go begging to "outside sources".
If they could do it without price increases, that would be really, really nice. However, lower sulfur gas is good, and if it's only a couple extra cents, the cost will be minimal in the end for those who do UOAs. The lower sulfur should deplete TBN more slowly, allowing longer OCIs in many vehicles (allowing the owner to spend less on oil).
I agree it is good, but are OUR refineries able to make the stuff or are we to go begging to "outside sources".
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
Originally Posted By: A_Harman
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
The "EPA" in its' bureaucratic wisdom, is lowering the permitted sulfur in pump gas. Probably a good think, but cost estimate is near a10 cents a gallon increase. Question is, has a certain part of the "transportation lobby" succeeded in exempting diesel from this?
No. The EPA already hit diesel users years ago. They mandated ULSD when particulate traps were introduced in 2007. Ever wonder why diesel costs more than gas now?
I know the diesel standard was lowered over the objection of a "certain lobby" but could it be lowered any further? What they don't have the turnips to do is deal with sulfur in home heating oil. The poor and downtrodden, and how they VOTE, ya see.
At least here in the midwest USLD is used for home heating oil. My fuel supplier has verified this for me as in my shop I still use heating oil. The east coast may be in a different situation I don't know, but one would have to assume its the same product across the country as it would be one less product to keep separate and keep on hand.
Originally Posted By: A_Harman
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
The "EPA" in its' bureaucratic wisdom, is lowering the permitted sulfur in pump gas. Probably a good think, but cost estimate is near a10 cents a gallon increase. Question is, has a certain part of the "transportation lobby" succeeded in exempting diesel from this?
No. The EPA already hit diesel users years ago. They mandated ULSD when particulate traps were introduced in 2007. Ever wonder why diesel costs more than gas now?
I know the diesel standard was lowered over the objection of a "certain lobby" but could it be lowered any further? What they don't have the turnips to do is deal with sulfur in home heating oil. The poor and downtrodden, and how they VOTE, ya see.
At least here in the midwest USLD is used for home heating oil. My fuel supplier has verified this for me as in my shop I still use heating oil. The east coast may be in a different situation I don't know, but one would have to assume its the same product across the country as it would be one less product to keep separate and keep on hand.
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