The Big 3 business model is broken--see Bill Heard

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Oh... I didn't make that picture, found it on the net. Someone now removed it from those threads and that's not fair... It's freedom of expression, and was for fun. I wasn't blatantly claiming it was accurate and never posted as such.

I have a picture of a caravan if you want it...
 
Originally Posted By: StevieC
Oh... I didn't make that picture, found it on the net. Someone now removed it from those threads and that's not fair... It's freedom of expression, and was for fun. I wasn't blatantly claiming it was accurate and never posted as such.


It was removed because of profanity in the image you posted that got a complaint, not lack of accuracy.

Your freedom of expression doesn't include profanity on BITOG.
 
Originally Posted By: StevieC
Oh... I didn't make that picture, found it on the net. Someone now removed it from those threads and that's not fair... It's freedom of expression, and was for fun. I wasn't blatantly claiming it was accurate and never posted as such.

I have a picture of a caravan if you want it...


Oh, I know you didn't make it. Somebody else posted it quite some time ago.

It has swearing in it. Read the top line. That's why it was deleted.
 
Here we go:

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Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Here we go:

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After I read that, I felt my medicare and social security dollars disappearing. In 2042, I intend to collect.
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Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL

Well it's his OPINION Brian, which coincidentally, I am going to define as inferior. Care to join me?


No answer yet, to my question. I guess he's reading articles and conferring with friends for an answer.


Weekends are my time – no computer for me during that time.

Im also not going to get into a pi$$ing contest with you. My opinion is that American cars are viewed as inferior to imports. Right or wrong, it is the perception. You believe otherwise, which in part is what makes this country great.

I will continue to vote with my dollars. I assume you will do the same.
 
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My opinion is that American cars are viewed as inferior to imports. Right or wrong, it is the perception.


That's right, it's just your perception. It's not like you carefully considered the available information, analyzed it, and came up with a conclusion.

Had you actually done so, you might be able to articulate why you think what you do. But you didn't so you can't.

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Im also not going to get into a pi$$ing contest with you.


You already have and you're retreating since you know you're losing.

After all, you said:

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You dont need to be an expert in any field (except maybe common sense) to know that most of the big 3s cars are inferior.


So we've gone from they ARE inferior to your opinion is that they are VIEWED as inferior.

Don't present your opinion as factual in the future and we won't have these pi$$ing contest problems, ok?
 
Originally Posted By: brianl703
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My opinion is that American cars are viewed as inferior to imports. Right or wrong, it is the perception.


That's right, it's just your perception. It's not like you carefully considered the available information, analyzed it, and came up with a conclusion.

Had you actually done so, you might be able to articulate why you think what you do. But you didn't so you can't.


Are you being obtuse on purpose? It is also a perception shared by a majority of Americans. This is fact. There is noting to articulate.




Originally Posted By: brianl703


So we've gone from they ARE inferior to your opinion is that they are VIEWED as inferior.

Don't present your opinion as factual in the future and we won't have these pi$$ing contest problems, ok?


OK..one last time. MY opinion is that they are inferior. MY opinion is shared with a MAJORITY of Americans. We may ALL be wrong in thinking they are inferior. Lets say the truth is all domestics are of higher quality than the imports. That really doesn’t matter a lot since PERCEPTION is REALITY.

Enjoy your holidays...Im out!
 
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Originally Posted By: brianl703
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My opinion is that American cars are viewed as inferior to imports. Right or wrong, it is the perception.


That's right, it's just your perception. It's not like you carefully considered the available information, analyzed it, and came up with a conclusion.

Had you actually done so, you might be able to articulate why you think what you do. But you didn't so you can't.


Are you being obtuse on purpose? It is also a perception shared by a majority of Americans. This is fact. There is noting to articulate.




Originally Posted By: brianl703


So we've gone from they ARE inferior to your opinion is that they are VIEWED as inferior.

Don't present your opinion as factual in the future and we won't have these pi$$ing contest problems, ok?


OK..one last time. MY opinion is that they are inferior. MY opinion is shared with a MAJORITY of Americans. We may ALL be wrong in thinking they are inferior. Lets say the truth is all domestics are of higher quality than the imports. That really doesn’t matter a lot since PERCEPTION is REALITY.

Enjoy your holidays...Im out!


MAJORITY of Americans? I understand the whole perception thing, but unless you have conducted a poll of Americans in every part of the country, you cannot make a claim such as that. I don't think there is ANYTHING that a MAJORITY of Americans can agree on.
 
It's his OPINION that the majority of Americans think domestics are inferior.

If he were going to present it as a fact, he might actually have to PROVE it.
 
Right now, everyone's business model is broken. Toyota is projected to post a $1.7b loss this fiscal year.

It's just a bad time to be an automaker right now . . . any automaker.
 
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