The average salary at BMW in Greer SC plant is $39.00, so around $78K per year. Its actually more than in Michigan auto plants is my understanding.
BMW headquarters is in Munich. BMW N. America headquarters is in NJ, and they mostly run N. America sales, and have nothing to do with the Greer plant. The average salary I posted was for the Greer plant and came from a South Carolina article.Depends on the manufacturer. BMW HQ is in NJ, not SC. Most companies except Nissan and Toyota have HQs in the North or West.
Production is in the Southeast.
Also, you are talking about the average. Averages are influenced by a lot of things.
You could have just left that last part off. I don't think it's any harder to make an EV good, I think the problem is that we have car companies that aren't having to deal with developing ICE powerplants and dealing with direct emissions which makes it easier as a start up to make a product quicker to market with less regulations to deal with as a result. It just happens that companies that develop good cars tend to develop better cars than those that don't have much experience making them. There's a couple outliers, but many have failed. I think Tesla for one has been around long enough now that they're no longer in that startup demographic, but Lucid and Rivian are getting there if they keep at it. Lordstown didn't get off the ground at all, just blew up on the launch pad.Any good car is hard to make.
And it's extremely hard to make an EV that is actually a good car.
Absolutely. One reason: cheap labor in the South.
The internet is your friend. The insinuation and demeaning “tone of voice” on “Cheap Labor” at BMW in the south (and others) shows the ignorance of many people.That's the average. What's the median?
I lived in the South for 8 yrs and worked with Alabama government on bringing VW.The internet is your friend. The insinuation and demeaning “tone of voice” on “Cheap Labor” at BMW in the south (and others) shows the ignorance of many people.
Anyone can get a job down here, support a family, get AMAZING health benefits and all others including generous PTO, work schedules… the list goes on.
I’m not trashing you guys nor anyone else but you need to educate yourselves on these workers lives and that of their families with salaries higher then even public service like police.
You’re so jaded by whatever high tax restrictive states you MAY live in that you can not comprehend what life can be like non restrictive low tax freedom loving states.
It’s sad because not understanding that will never force changes for the better where you live by means of how you vote.
I spent the vast majority of my life in an affluent area of New York rated among the top income areas in the USA
People are miserable big incomes taxed to death, locked into an area with no place to go until the breaking point and why the outflow of people from the state.
The others think they have it good but they’ve never been to the other side like I have.
When we moved south. Our teenage kids came with us. Educated here and life couldn’t be any better for them now with their own homes and families.
Opportunities they would’ve never had in the land of the free.
Wont let myself (for once) get dragged into more posts in this today. Some dogs can’t learn new tricks unless they want too.
The BMW HQ in NJ doesn’t have anything with SC operation? How does that work?BMW headquarters is in Munich. BMW N. America headquarters is in NJ, and they mostly run N. America sales, and have nothing to do with the Greer plant. The average salary I posted was for the Greer plant and came from a South Carolina article.
Mercedes North America Headquarters is in Atlanta. They moved it a few years back from the NE, for tax reasons I understand. They do have a little to do with the Mercedes plant in Alabama, they do capex procurement and pay invoices.
Not sure what your point is. Companies are not coming to the South for cheap labor, at least not anymore. If that was true they would be going to Mexico. A vast number of technical people that worked in automotive continue to move here from Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, and its not because pay is low.
Sales and marketing division of large companies are typically a different silo corporately to manufacturing division of a company. BMW manufacturing and engineering is run out of Germany. How they roll taxes and profits up is left to the tax attorneys.The BMW HQ in NJ doesn’t have anything with SC operation? How does that work?
BMW has huge engineering division in NJ. Their PUMA cases are always run to NJ than Germany. North American R&D division is in NJ. NJ BMW employs actually more people than their SC operation.Sales and marketing division of large companies are typically a different silo corporately to manufacturing division of a company. BMW manufacturing and engineering is run out of Germany. How they roll taxes and profits up is left to the tax attorneys.
When I worked for a Fortune 50 company (didn't forget the zero) our headquarters was in NJ, and the only ones there were attorneys, accountants and the executives that talked to wall street. They had zero to do with how the manufacturing or even sales side of things worked, other than have meetings and approve budgets for the various division presidents.
Puma is after sales issues - so its not going to go to the plant. Collected in NJ. If it requires changing car design or changing manufacturing process, it goes to Germany.BMW has huge engineering division in NJ. Their PUMA cases are always run to NJ than Germany. North American R&D division is in NJ. NJ BMW employs actually more people than their SC operation.
By the way, I’am very well aware where BMW is actually having company HQ. But, I am really not sure you get the scope of their operation in North America.
Of course all these companies came bcs. Cheap labor, HUGE tax incentives at expense of education, healthcare etc.
. The state provided an incentives package worth $57 million, most of it linked to employment and investment targets that the company would have to meet over 16 years.
Do you actually know what is PUMA? It is resolving technical and engineering issues outside of dealerships. NJ is direct stop to try to resolve it.Puma is after sales issues - so its not going to go to the plant. Collected in NJ. If it requires changing car design or changing manufacturing process, it goes to Germany.
Alabama gave huge incentives to Hyundai/KIA. Factories supporting those manufacturers popped out like mushrooms after rain on I85 corridor between Montgomery and La Grange. Today, that is second most depressed region in Alabama after West Alabama.Rolls-Royce plant in Virginia lasted 10 years before shutting down..
Rolls-Royce closing Virginia jet parts plant where 280 work
Rolls-Royce will close its aircraft parts factory in central Virginia by the middle of next year, throwing 280 people out of work, the company confirmed on Saturday.www.wric.com
Alabama gave huge incentives to Hyundai/KIA. Factories supporting those manufacturers popped out like mushrooms after rain on I85 corridor between Montgomery and La Grange. Today, that is second most depressed region in Alabama after West Alabama.
You just agreed with me but now your arguing with me. PuMA = "Problem und Mebnahmenmanagement Aftersales" in Deutch. Problem management after sale. And the u is lowercase.Do you actually know what is PUMA? It is resolving technical and engineering issues outside of dealerships. NJ is direct stop to try to resolve it.
I am really not sure what are you trying to argue here? SC is a plant. It is not R&D facility etc. Everything else is located in NJ.
There is a very simplistic reason why BMW (or other manufacturers) don’t move jobs like that to SC, AL etc. Those states cannot support operations like that (except to certain extent Texas). You have to recruit people that support those operations, which is far different than recruiting plant workers etc. You worked for Fortune 500 company, you know how that works. If it was that easy Tesla wouldn’t bring back R&D to Silicon Valley from TX.
The BMW HQ in NJ doesn’t have anything with SC operation? How does that work?
You do know that everything that SC plant does has to go through NJ? NJ is North American HQ! ANY BMW operation in North America goes thru NJ.You just agreed with me but now your arguing with me. PuMA = "Problem und Mebnahmenmanagement Aftersales" in Deutch. Problem management after sale. And the u is lowercase.
ie like I said, its post sale - so why would a manufacturing facility be involved directly in post sales problems? That isn't what manufacturing facilities do. They build a product to a spec. No more or no less.
Your arguing exactly what I said earlier - NJ has nothing to do with Greer SC manufacturing. Your the one asking how that works.
Pick a side would ya?
Ignore on.
Jeff, The engineering guys did build a proto type according to this YT video.....who knew?Make mine a V8...
Manufacturing plants are definitely bigger deals than that. For VW, A was looking at some $200-250 million expense to the state. Many states, generally those that are economically in much better state, won’t offer that. Colorado would never throw money at something like that. This is a. Quick solution to unemployment. B. If they stick long enough, they will start generating tax revenue, C. MOST IMPORTANT, it is REA, REALLY good politics! People don’t ask complex questions. 2,000 jobs? Good enough. But, like football teams tax incentives, there is much more below the surface.In Virginia, the state/locality gives incentives to businesses that locate in certain areas like southwest Virginia. These businesses run for a few years, shut down, start up under a new name, and collect more incentives. They tend to be the sort of businesses that aren't very capital intensive like call centers, easy to start up, easy to shut down.
I sort of think that if you have to offer incentives to a business, you're making up for shortcomings in other areas, like lack of infrastructure or a workforce that can pass a drug test.