Hey guys,
I wondering if I can use TGMO 0W-20 SN for a 2002 Toyota Echo?
Thanks.
I wondering if I can use TGMO 0W-20 SN for a 2002 Toyota Echo?
Thanks.
TGMO 0W-20 SN for 2002 Toyota Echo?
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The echo is back speced for 20 weight oils.
I've run Citgo Supergard 5w-20 for over 100K in my echo.
I've run Citgo Supergard 5w-20 for over 100K in my echo.
You can probably use whatever you want. Those cars/engines are solid.
Try it and see how you like it.
I had an '07 Corolla...different engine than the Echo, but similar situation: 5w30 on the cap but back-spec'd to 5W-20. The engine felt much smoother on 5w30 than it did on 5W-20. I ran Havoline/Chevron conventional 5w30 in it, as a "light" 5w30.
I had an '07 Corolla...different engine than the Echo, but similar situation: 5w30 on the cap but back-spec'd to 5W-20. The engine felt much smoother on 5w30 than it did on 5W-20. I ran Havoline/Chevron conventional 5w30 in it, as a "light" 5w30.
I use Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-20 in my 2000 ECHO, it works fine. Startup is noticeably easier than with the -30 grade and overall I think the engine is at least as quiet as with the -30 (much quieter on really cold days). The consumption is a bit higher than with -30 but not a big deal.
If I felt like spending the extra money for TGMO I'm sure it would work OK too. Walmart's price on M1 is just too low for me to do that though.
My $0.02
If I felt like spending the extra money for TGMO I'm sure it would work OK too. Walmart's price on M1 is just too low for me to do that though.
My $0.02
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
The engine felt much smoother on 5w30 than it did on 5W-20.
+1, much prefer 5w30 for that reason in the 05 Matrix.
The engine felt much smoother on 5w30 than it did on 5W-20.
+1, much prefer 5w30 for that reason in the 05 Matrix.
I don't know if Id start running a 20 grade after an engine has been run on a 30 most of its life. All depends on if you get excessive engine noise or knocking or if the O.P is low on a hot 20.
Sure you can.
The echo is specced for 0w20/5w20/5w30. Give the TGMO a go and enjoy.....
The echo is specced for 0w20/5w20/5w30. Give the TGMO a go and enjoy.....
I went about 125,000 miles before I switched, I'm at well over 200,000 now. You think that's a problem?
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
I don't know if Id start running a 20 grade after an engine has been run on a 30 most of its life. All depends on if you get excessive engine noise or knocking or if the O.P is low on a hot 20.
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
I don't know if Id start running a 20 grade after an engine has been run on a 30 most of its life. All depends on if you get excessive engine noise or knocking or if the O.P is low on a hot 20.
TGMO 0W-20 SN can be used in any Toyota 1980 and newer, possibly also older. The only effects you will notice are better engine performance, longer oil life, and likely more engine durability.
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
TGMO 0W-20 SN can be used in any Toyota 1980 and newer, possibly also older. The only effects you will notice are better engine performance, longer oil life, and likely more engine durability.
Well that sounds like the perfect oil for my echo.
TGMO 0W-20 SN can be used in any Toyota 1980 and newer, possibly also older. The only effects you will notice are better engine performance, longer oil life, and likely more engine durability.
Well that sounds like the perfect oil for my echo.
Originally Posted By: flatlinerz
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
TGMO 0W-20 SN can be used in any Toyota 1980 and newer, possibly also older. The only effects you will notice are better engine performance, longer oil life, and likely more engine durability.
Well that sounds like the perfect oil for my echo.
I noticed you are in Australia; so, the formulation there will possibly be different. Here in US, it's made by ExxonMobil. The US version by ExxonMobil is exceptionally good but I don't know the performance of other versions of TGMO 0W-20. Nevertheless, for a 2002 Echo, 0W-20 in general should be an OK grade.
Or is it Austin, Texas?
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
TGMO 0W-20 SN can be used in any Toyota 1980 and newer, possibly also older. The only effects you will notice are better engine performance, longer oil life, and likely more engine durability.
Well that sounds like the perfect oil for my echo.
I noticed you are in Australia; so, the formulation there will possibly be different. Here in US, it's made by ExxonMobil. The US version by ExxonMobil is exceptionally good but I don't know the performance of other versions of TGMO 0W-20. Nevertheless, for a 2002 Echo, 0W-20 in general should be an OK grade.
Or is it Austin, Texas?
The 1NZ-FE motor will take anything.
0W-20 has been approved by Toyota and the Factory Service Manual states that up to 20W-50 can be used under the appropriate climate (page LU-1).
From my own experience, I've started using 10-30 for the summer months, and its a bit quieter than 5-30.
0W-20 has been approved by Toyota and the Factory Service Manual states that up to 20W-50 can be used under the appropriate climate (page LU-1).
From my own experience, I've started using 10-30 for the summer months, and its a bit quieter than 5-30.
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Factory Service Manual states that up to 20W-50 can be used under the appropriate climate (page LU-1).
Odd, i see 5w30 nuts off to fry an egg.
Factory Service Manual states that up to 20W-50 can be used under the appropriate climate (page LU-1).
Odd, i see 5w30 nuts off to fry an egg.
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
Originally Posted By: flatlinerz
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
TGMO 0W-20 SN can be used in any Toyota 1980 and newer, possibly also older. The only effects you will notice are better engine performance, longer oil life, and likely more engine durability.
Well that sounds like the perfect oil for my echo.
I noticed you are in Australia; so, the formulation there will possibly be different. Here in US, it's made by ExxonMobil. The US version by ExxonMobil is exceptionally good but I don't know the performance of other versions of TGMO 0W-20. Nevertheless, for a 2002 Echo, 0W-20 in general should be an OK grade.
Or is it Austin, Texas?
No you are right I am in Australia, I would actually buy from the US since its cheaper then buying it here.
Originally Posted By: flatlinerz
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
TGMO 0W-20 SN can be used in any Toyota 1980 and newer, possibly also older. The only effects you will notice are better engine performance, longer oil life, and likely more engine durability.
Well that sounds like the perfect oil for my echo.
I noticed you are in Australia; so, the formulation there will possibly be different. Here in US, it's made by ExxonMobil. The US version by ExxonMobil is exceptionally good but I don't know the performance of other versions of TGMO 0W-20. Nevertheless, for a 2002 Echo, 0W-20 in general should be an OK grade.
Or is it Austin, Texas?
No you are right I am in Australia, I would actually buy from the US since its cheaper then buying it here.
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
TGMO 0W-20 SN can be used in any Toyota 1980 and newer, possibly also older. The only effects you will notice are better engine performance, longer oil life, and likely more engine durability.
Interested in those statements, and what's there to back them up.
TGMO 0W-20 SN can be used in any Toyota 1980 and newer, possibly also older. The only effects you will notice are better engine performance, longer oil life, and likely more engine durability.
Interested in those statements, and what's there to back them up.
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
TGMO 0W-20 SN can be used in any Toyota 1980 and newer, possibly also older. The only effects you will notice are better engine performance, longer oil life, and likely more engine durability.
Interested in those statements, and what's there to back them up.
Read it on the internet.
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
TGMO 0W-20 SN can be used in any Toyota 1980 and newer, possibly also older. The only effects you will notice are better engine performance, longer oil life, and likely more engine durability.
Interested in those statements, and what's there to back them up.
Read it on the internet.
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
TGMO 0W-20 SN can be used in any Toyota 1980 and newer, possibly also older. The only effects you will notice are better engine performance, longer oil life, and likely more engine durability.
Interested in those statements, and what's there to back them up.
Can you back up that its not good? Seems like the only go to response to try and counter a point around here. Go find something to discredit the statement yourself.
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
TGMO 0W-20 SN can be used in any Toyota 1980 and newer, possibly also older. The only effects you will notice are better engine performance, longer oil life, and likely more engine durability.
Interested in those statements, and what's there to back them up.
Can you back up that its not good? Seems like the only go to response to try and counter a point around here. Go find something to discredit the statement yourself.
Originally Posted By: domer10
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
TGMO 0W-20 SN can be used in any Toyota 1980 and newer, possibly also older. The only effects you will notice are better engine performance, longer oil life, and likely more engine durability.
Interested in those statements, and what's there to back them up.
Can you back up that its not good? Seems like the only go to response to try and counter a point around here. Go find something to discredit the statement yourself.
Hydrodynamic separation increases with increasing viscosity. Wear tests like the sequence IV are representative of additive activation, not viscosity...I'm merely asking that the "increased durability", and "improved oil life" be expanded on...I didn't claim that they weren't just an explaination by those making it on how that DO
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
TGMO 0W-20 SN can be used in any Toyota 1980 and newer, possibly also older. The only effects you will notice are better engine performance, longer oil life, and likely more engine durability.
Interested in those statements, and what's there to back them up.
Can you back up that its not good? Seems like the only go to response to try and counter a point around here. Go find something to discredit the statement yourself.
Hydrodynamic separation increases with increasing viscosity. Wear tests like the sequence IV are representative of additive activation, not viscosity...I'm merely asking that the "increased durability", and "improved oil life" be expanded on...I didn't claim that they weren't just an explaination by those making it on how that DO
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