Tesla semi 1000 mile journey

In my example it doesn't work at all. In fact in an 11 hour day it doesn't work either. Short hauls, or local driving maybe. In this case ICE isn't going to die as soon as the EV proponents think/hope.
They need to target something practical like 10/10 so Drivers can sleep while charging …
 
For cross country or long hauls they can however do this: Team truck driving is when two drivers drive the same truck and take shifts driving the truck. According to the FMCSA, truck drivers may drive a maximum of 11 hours after 10 consecutive hours off duty.. As a result, one team member can drive for 11 hours while the other driver catches up on sleep. So fueling doesn't sideline a truck very long with team driving.
My cousin in law was a maintenance manager at a big trucking company before they were bought up by UPS. He said they had a couple of family driver teams that consisted of 3 Indian immigrants (brothers or cousins) who would keep their truck moving almost constantly for a month or more at a time, LOL. One would drive, another ride shotgun while the third was sleeping.


For some reason, they had a hole drilled in the bottom of the sleeper. :unsure:
 
My cousin in law was a maintenance manager at White before they were bought up by UPS. He said they had a couple of family driver teams that consisted of 3 Indian immigrants (brothers or cousins) who would keep their truck moving almost constantly for a month or more at a time, LOL. One would drive, another ride shotgun while the third was sleeping.


For some reason, they had a hole drilled in the bottom of the sleeper. :unsure:
I had a good friend in the business who moved away years ago. He was an owner operator and ran cross country runs with another driver. He said the only way to make real money was for his truck to be moving. He ran a month or more at a time also, then take a few days off and repeat.
 
For cross country or long hauls they can however do this: Team truck driving is when two drivers drive the same truck and take shifts driving the truck. According to the FMCSA, truck drivers may drive a maximum of 11 hours after 10 consecutive hours off duty.. As a result, one team member can drive for 11 hours while the other driver catches up on sleep. So fueling doesn't sideline a truck very long with team driving.
Yes- but an electric truck can do the same thing! Without drivers. And how long it takes to charge is very much a unknown to us. However you can bet the truck driving industry as thought of every point mentioned above and more.
 
Yes- but an electric truck can do the same thing! Without drivers. And how long it takes to charge is very much a unknown to us. However you can bet the truck driving industry as thought of every point mentioned above and more.
I'll believe that when I see it and businesses are doing it profitably. For now it's a dream, the reality is still in the works. No one is driving unmanned trucks across the US, or from Maine to Florida, or California to Washington. Is it coming? Probably but at the moment it isn't happening. They don't even have the infrastructure in place to charge these trucks let alone have them transporting goods w/o a driver.
 
I'll believe that when I see it and businesses are doing it profitably. For now it's a dream, the reality is still in the works. No one is driving unmanned trucks across the US, or from Maine to Florida, or California to Washington. Is it coming? Probably but at the moment it isn't happening. They don't even have the infrastructure in place to charge these trucks let alone have them transporting goods w/o a driver.
Agreed. The only point I am making is that any objection that has been brought up is not an insurmountable issue. And the trucking industry-generally is all over this. Charging stations can be built, etc.
 
Agreed. The only point I am making is that any objection that has been brought up is not an insurmountable issue. And the trucking industry-generally is all over this. Charging stations can be built, etc.
Absolutely, but set realistic goals, and don't cripple the ICE industry in hopes to achieve those goals sooner than humanly possibly.
 
I'll believe that when I see it and businesses are doing it profitably. For now it's a dream, the reality is still in the works. No one is driving unmanned trucks across the US, or from Maine to Florida, or California to Washington. Is it coming? Probably but at the moment it isn't happening. They don't even have the infrastructure in place to charge these trucks let alone have them transporting goods w/o a driver.


I’d want to know how unmanned trucks will travel over the Siskyous Complex during winter. That’s a long stretch.

When the passes are closed obviously nobody gets through but they are not closed all the time during winter. The truckers get through as much as they can.
 
Can it make it a million miles without an overhaul or major repair? What's the REAL cost per mile? Can it run 10 hours a day without requiring the driver to wait around while recharging?
On EV it has more to do with miles per charge than hours, since idling doesn't really use much energy on an EV other than the AC. I think it would be more helpful if they can quantify the coasting range and make a unit of how much range or hours of operation equivalent to a regular sized semi (i.e. 1/2, 1/3, 1/5, etc) but that would be bad marketing for EV.
 
I’d want to know how unmanned trucks will travel over the Siskyous Complex during winter. That’s a long stretch.

When the passes are closed obviously nobody gets through but they are not closed all the time during winter. The truckers get through as much as they can.
LOL Just living on L.I. 20 ish miles from NYC I can think of a ton of examples where they'd have problems and lawsuits as a result.
 
There has to be a special extremely high power charger specially designed for this truck to make recharging in a reasonable time possible. Certainly, not the kind of charger available to the public.
Likely commercial 3 phase AC? I don't think I would expect someone to park a semi and charge at home at least for the initial custom workload EV semi. They would all be used for specific purposes that's high idle, low weight large volume, enclosed environment, short distance, etc.
 
The real question to my mind is can "Big Rig Joe" make a living driving one of these while paying the note? Can he even break even? Can his employer if he isn't an owner-operator. How big a subsidy from the government will it require? Driving truck is the most common job in the USA.
 
The real question to my mind is can "Big Rig Joe" make a living driving one of these while paying the note? Can he even break even? Can his employer if he isn't an owner-operator. How big a subsidy from the government will it require? Driving truck is the most common job in the USA.
These EVs are not for long haul drivers, more for port, local last mile delivery, custom cargos, etc.
 
The real question to my mind is can "Big Rig Joe" make a living driving one of these while paying the note? Can he even break even? Can his employer if he isn't an owner-operator. How big a subsidy from the government will it require? Driving truck is the most common job in the USA.


This is a looming problem for truckers. If you are young chances are your job is going to change.
 
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These EVs are not for long haul drivers, more for port, local last mile delivery, custom cargos, etc.

No sleeper in the Tesla Semi. Kind of an oddball layout with the captain’s chair and a jump seat in the rear. It seems to be targeted more for regional deliveries. In this case Pepsi/Frito-Lay took early deliveries. But for well defined routes it might be possible to do overnights.

I’m thinking the charging infrastructure has to be well defined where it won’t be as random as passenger EVs getting charged.
 
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