how do you have the energy to explain the world to people who don't understand the difference between 0 --> n vs n + 1, i feel fatigue just thinking about all the layers that have to be unpacked for some people
Tesla Robotaxi / Robovan Event
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How about citing some of those videos?
What are we, two weeks in and still just one documented safety incident for Tesla. 66 for Waymo. I think it has legs.
https://www.austintexas.gov/page/autonomous-vehicles
https://www.austintexas.gov/page/autonomous-vehicles
Too many passes given to this camera only system. I've seen at least 10 screw ups in documented videos with RoboTaxi in the last week alone. What constitutes a safety incident? A collision? I saw a video where the car drove into oncoming traffic and eventually corrected itself. I can't understand why the Tesla employee didn't correct it. Fire that moron. Another where a RoboTaxi turned tight and hit a Camry in a parking lot with the tire. It tried to stop in a left hand turn lane on a 4 lane road to drop off a rider.
That's just a few. Far from a ringing endorsement. The people that talk up FSD the most have never used it. It's a disaster. It's just the smallest widely available disaster. I won't pay money for this garbage. The biggest way Tesla screwed themselves out of money was giving me 3 months of FSD at the beginning of the year so I didn't feel the need to buy it to test it. I definitely learned enough in 3 months. Holy crap did it scare the living crap out of me and leave me angry for even allowing it to drive for me. I have another free trial in my 2026 Y and it still can't pick the right lane to drive straight at a stoplight in my town. My 2024 doesn't have this problem though after a few interventions. I have to teach the new car all over again? It's slower to learn and they're both HW4 cars. I refuse to call it the new label of AI4. There's nothing intelligent about it. I have to babysit in different ways depending on the car I leave in? It's very inconsistent even between cars. Junk. Absolute trash.
You've got to suspend belief to think any form of FSD is ok and it's far from being in the spot of unsupervised in a cab. Put these FSD developers pushing this crap in prison for attempted vehicular manslaughter.
Might just be because I am an Android and all the cool people have iPhones. I haven't tried with my wife's phone.
Yeah, lane selection is its biggest issue IMO. The day before yesterday in Sacramento it went straight from a left only lane. Got me honked at. It didn’t even put its right signal on, it just went for it. It’s ruder than me! Makes me wonder who’s driving they train it on. But, still love it overall and find it useful. When my 3 month trial is up, I will probably subscribe, I think it’s worth the price.
I don’t think it’s so much who it’s trained on than it’s just trying to go off of road markings. If it’s not perfectly clear it sometimes gets it wrong. All the markings for turn lanes in my town are painted on the pavement and the car doesn’t register seeing them until it’s on top of the markings. By that time it’s already too late.
Like Sears, Beatrice, and Maxtor which was a large commercial tape drive company in Colorado. They hedged their bets that tape drives would be the preferred medium for another decade which turned out to not be the case.
I don't consider the autonomous delivery a success. It was followed by a Cybertruck for the entire trip, and then parked itself in a no parking fire lane, which would get most vehicles towed away.
