Tesla Robotaxi / Robovan Event

You're right, he has the company by the balls, for now, and he knows it. I happen to love the big swings, especially when they dump it after a big run up.
An analyst said (can't remember which one) said he thought that if Musk was kicked out stock would drop 25% overnight but eventually recover. It's rumored that Musk personally fired the head of North American sales at Tesla on Friday. He's been with Tesla for a while. He was previously at Space X then was hired for his job at Tesla.
 
I was told the FSD delivery was a day ahead of schedule! That of course requires you to ignore that this was supposed to be possible 5 years ago.
Yes, it was. 1 car, I believe. Is that a win? Of course can you imagine a few thousand Teslas taking off for their new home in one day? OMG...
 
You realize Tesla is building exactly the same FSD/Autonomous hardware into the Tesla Semi?

So, an autonomous truck arrives with your new car which then proceeds to unload itself.
My crystal ball sez the world will look a whole lot different in 10 years.
Tesla has forced a stragegic inflection point in the world of transportation.

Leaders don't follow. Do leaders make mistakes? Heck yeah.
 
An analyst said (can't remember which one) said he thought that if Musk was kicked out stock would drop 25% overnight but eventually recover. It's rumored that Musk personally fired the head of North American sales at Tesla on Friday. He's been with Tesla for a while. He was previously at Space X then was hired for his job at Tesla.
Sure, this is true of just about all businesses, especially as they grow from startup to large.
 
Driver error is the leading cause of car accidents, contributing to a significant majority of crashes, with estimates ranging from 90% to 94%. This means that the actions or inactions of drivers, rather than mechanical failures or environmental factors, are the primary reason for most collisions.
At lot of assumptions have to be made to call FSD safer though. That’s definitely very dependent on where it is used. Driver error is inconsistency for not paying attention. FSD inconsistency comes from the system just becoming confused. It’s really not much different. I’m amazed given all the praise of FSD that it can’t drive me 2 miles to Walmart in my town without taking the wrong lane at least twice to stay straight at stoplights. That’s embarrassing in a 2026 Tesla for how close to unsupervised FSD is supposed to be.
 
At lot of assumptions have to be made to call FSD safer though. That’s definitely very dependent on where it is used. Driver error is inconsistency for not paying attention. FSD inconsistency comes from the system just becoming confused. It’s really not much different. I’m amazed given all the praise of FSD that it can’t drive me 2 miles to Walmart in my town without taking the wrong lane at least twice to stay straight at stoplights. That’s embarrassing in a 2026 Tesla for how close to unsupervised FSD is supposed to be.
Driver error also includes not paying attention due to tuning the radio or searching for controls, cell phone, being upset cuz wifey yelled at you, or your boss, kids screaming, looking at the fox on the sidewalk, hangovers, drunk driving, having a cold, late for work, on and on...

Humans set a really low bar.
 
Driver error also includes not paying attention due to tuning the radio or searching for controls, cell phone, being upset cuz wifey yelled at you, or your boss, kids screaming, looking at the fox on the sidewalk, hangovers, drunk driving, having a cold, late for work, on and on...

Humans set a really low bar.
What about fsd error? Is it not as bad if an autonomous vehicle runs a red light and kills someone? A robotaxi pulled into a left turn lane then went straight into the oncoming lane on green it took six seconds for it to "figure " out that it was in the wong lane. This was on the first day of the event. Hundreds of people have posted videos of their Teslas running very red lights, pulling into oncoming traffic, the wrong lane etc. Forbes followed fsd and autopilot accidents over several years, 94% of the time it was no safer than a human driving, 3% of the time it was slightly safer, and 3% of the time it was slightly less safe than a human driving.
 
We can’t even get trains reliably autonomous and they follow tracks. I’m required to use the “FSD” on a locomotive as much as possible snd it still makes stupid mistakes. It’s not much different than babysitting FSD.
Can't hardly run a train profitably in the USA so who in their right mind would think the same geniuses currently running trains could invent anything new and make it work?

Look at the gross mismanagement and budgeting of California's "high speed" train.
 
Actually, $11,500 per car ( I did use the words “up to”)

Simple, $7500 when purchased new, then the same car re-sold used gets $4000. Must be sold by a dealer.
That makes sense. I wasn’t making the combination on my own initially to make the connection.
 
Can't hardly run a train profitably in the USA so who in their right mind would think the same geniuses currently running trains could invent anything new and make it work?

Look at the gross mismanagement and budgeting of California's "high speed" train.
😂 that’s good. I’ll await the explanation of how it all works. Keep in mind I’ve been in the industry 8 years and I can tell you exactly how it all works. I’m just not allowed to divulge the information in a public setting like this.

It’s freight, not passenger. Freight makes money hand over fist.
 
Oh I’m very aware of that. I said the same thing. I never bought with the intention of even using FSD, but his lies and antics is why it took so long for me to buy a Tesla initially. If they spent half the energy on designing the cars that they have pushing FSD, it would be the best car on the road. How it has turned out now I think the car is great, but the little issues wouldn’t be a thing then.
I kind of wonder wherecor if Tesla will be in 10-15 years.
 
My crystal ball sez the world will look a whole lot different in 10 years.
Tesla has forced a stragegic inflection point in the world of transportation.

Leaders don't follow. Do leaders make mistakes? Heck yeah.
Look at Sears. If you told someone 100 years ago that Sears would be gone by the 2010s they'd think you're crazy.
 
Can't hardly run a train profitably in the USA so who in their right mind would think the same geniuses currently running trains could invent anything new and make it work?

Look at the gross mismanagement and budgeting of California's "high speed" train.
The only passenger Train system that I know turns a profit is Amtrak's Acela Line on the east coast.
 
According to the Google...
Successful Deadlines and Accomplishments:
  • Robotaxi Launch: Tesla successfully launched their Robotaxi platform in Austin on June 22, 2025, which may have been a significant milestone for the company in 2025.
  • Autonomous Home Delivery: Tesla achieved a successful autonomous vehicle delivery from the factory to a customer's house on June 27, 2025, one day earlier than Elon Musk's promised date of June 28th.
  • Model 3 Production Ramp-up: After facing challenges, Tesla successfully ramped up the production of the Model 3, meeting their Q2 2018 target of producing 5,000 Model 3 per week.
  • Model Y Production and Expansion: Tesla started Model Y production at the Fremont Factory in 2020, and expanded to Gigafactory Shanghai, Gigafactory Texas, and Gigafactory Berlin-Brandenburg. The Model Y became the world's best-selling vehicle in 2023, demonstrating Tesla's ability to scale production effectively.
  • Production Targets:Tesla regularly reports its production and delivery numbers, including:
    • Q1 2025: Produced 362,615 vehicles and delivered 336,681.
    • Q1 2024: Produced 433,371 vehicles and delivered 386,810.
Tesla has a mixed track record regarding deadlines, but it has undeniably achieved remarkable feats in ramping up production and delivering on certain key projects, particularly those related to autonomous driving and vehicle production milestones.

Regardless, you are right about the CEO's fiduciary duty to the shareholders, which one could argue Elon has badly botched more than once...

AG, my point is, we are not talking about some small task; this is a autonomous driving car. From a high level, the WAYMO uses area maps while Tesla does not. Of course, this is an oversimplification; there is far more to the solution. What these cars are doing and will do is the stuff of dreams. Heck, your car could drop you off at work then be a Uber and make you $$.

I find autonomous driving scary, impressive, crazy and, well I dunno. And I have been playing with EAP and monitored FSD for years.

I have a modest TSLA investment that is currently 3x to the good. Shoulda bought earlier, like instead of the Model 3 Mid Range; that would be some serious coin! 14,000% gain! Of course you know Tesla dwarfs all the other car companies from a market cap valuation standpoint. The market has rewarded Tesla shareholders handsomely. While TSLA is a rollercoaster, that's the numbers.
Then why did the HEAD of Tesla's autonomous driving state that they're lagging two years behind Waymo
Head of Tesla's auto driving says they're behind Waymo
 
I still can't download the Robotaxi app and I am in the office today near downtown Austin. It's clear as mud when I will be able to try out this service.
 
I still can't download the Robotaxi app and I am in the office today near downtown Austin. It's clear as mud when I will be able to try out this service.
You need to post a few videos to YouTube where you praise FSD unabashedly despite it trying to steer you into oncoming traffic. Then you’ll get your ticket.
 
I still can't download the Robotaxi app and I am in the office today near downtown Austin. It's clear as mud when I will be able to try out this service.
You don’t actually believe the public in general is able to use this system do you? Tesla was built upon lies.
 
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