Tesla Robotaxi / Robovan Event

I don't own a single thing that says Tesla on it...but you can't deny what the guy has been able to do in the timeframe that he has executed it in.
The Tesla car side/PV/powerwall stuff funds the Space X stuff, people think this is a car company that also builds rockets but the opposite is what is actually true.
 
Yeah, Tesla and Musk are the worst. Anyways, here's some numbers for you.
Largest automakers by market cap.
Market cap just means that Tesla is overvalued. You've been shown repeatedly that market cap is a small portion of what a company is. Do you have more insight than actual Tesla engineers? You think it's perfectly okay to bait consumers with false promises? If so I hope you work like Musk at your job. If so something tells me you wouldn't be employed very long. Musk needs to be held accountable.
 
Market cap just means that Tesla is overvalued. You've been shown repeatedly that market cap is a small portion of what a company is. Do you have more insight than actual Tesla engineers? You think it's perfectly okay to bait consumers with false promises? If so I hope you work like Musk at your job. If so something tells me you wouldn't be employed very long. Musk needs to be held accountable.
Accountable is exactly what the stock market is.
And yes, I was held accountable at work. And rewarded.
 
Accountable is exactly what the stock market is.
And yes, I was held accountable at work. And rewarded.

JeffK i assume you know the difference between inference and training, and how big a lift it would take to explain that to others, let alone how 100k H100s in a datacenter fits into that. For your own sake, please spare yourself the frustration and just let the peanut gallery do its thing
 
JeffK i assume you know the difference between inference and training, and how big a lift it would take to explain that to others, let alone how 100k H100s in a datacenter fits into that. For your own sake, please spare yourself the frustration and just let the peanut gallery do its thing
BITOG is a discussion forum; each of us if free to post our thoughts and opinions. What is funny to me is the short term thinking. Big things require time, effort, money and failures. And a can-do attitude. If it were easy anyone could do it.

"Show me a person who has never failed, and I will show you a failure of a person." Mike Bloomberg.
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." A. Einstein

Musk and his companies have changed the world and likely will continue to do so. I will say I have to separate his work from other things...

And yes, I am at least somewhat familiar with AI model concepts. I've not heard anyone else mention AI concepts at your level. I find that refreshing, to say the least.
We can all understanding loading tons of data into a model; the work that AI model then might do, via pattern development, beyond the limits of that data, is beyond mind boggling. And yes, better than the human mind.
 
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Elon Musk and other historically great minds share some traits, such as a tendency to spend time alone to think independently and challenge assumptions. Innovative thinking is the path to making history-altering discoveries.

Musk is known for his first-principles thinking, which involves questioning basic assumptions to transform their fields.
I've mentioned I briefly met with then Tesla CIO Jay Vijayan and his team on several occasions. Musk hated SAP (we have that in common) and ordered Vijayan to develop an in-house ERP solution. Operation Warp Drive completed in an impossible 4 (?) month span. This is but one example.
 
I have shares of UBER within my portfolio, so thanks TESLA!!!

I also own Tesla as well, but Uber shareholders were the benefactor of this event.
 
I don't own a single thing that says Tesla on it...but you can't deny what the guy has been able to do in the timeframe that he has executed it in.
The Tesla car side/PV/powerwall stuff funds the Space X stuff, people think this is a car company that also builds rockets but the opposite is what is actually true.
To the contrary...
In reality they are a technology company that builds vehicles!
 
BITOG is a discussion forum; each of us if free to post our thoughts and opinions. What is funny to me is the short term thinking. Big things require time, effort, money and failures. And a can-do attitude. If it were easy anyone could do it.

"Show me a person who has never failed, and I will show you a failure of a person." Mike Bloomberg.
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." A. Einstein

Musk and his companies have changed the world and likely will continue to do so. I will say I have to separate his work from other things...

And yes, I am at least somewhat familiar with AI model concepts. I've not heard anyone else mention AI concepts at your level. I find that refreshing, to say the least.
We can all understanding loading tons of data into a model; the work that AI model then might do, via pattern development, beyond the limits of that data, is beyond mind boggling. And yes, better than the human mind.

This video is probably beneath you, but this is the best introduction to neural networks that I've found. After internalizing the lessons in the NN series, perhaps people will adjust their expectations on how to judge the results and merits of Tesla's FSD. Like not expecting one of the most complex software endeavours in history to be delivered fully formed with all edge cases hammered out, while demanding a predictable timeline



Then when you start to realize that the AI lessons learned from building FSD, can be applied to (Not a Kia) Optimus Bot where the parameters will be decidedly lower stakes, it's not hard to see its existential impact on human labor and the multi-trillion dollar opportunity that represents.
 
This video is probably beneath you, but this is the best introduction to neural networks that I've found. After internalizing the lessons in the NN series, perhaps people will adjust their expectations on how to judge the results and merits of Tesla's FSD. Like not expecting one of the most complex software endeavours in history to be delivered fully formed with all edge cases hammered out, while demanding a predictable timeline



Then when you start to realize that the AI lessons learned from building FSD, can be applied to (Not a Kia) Optimus Bot where the parameters will be decidedly lower stakes, it's not hard to see its existential impact on human labor and the multi-trillion dollar opportunity that represents.

2 things:
  1. Not beneath me. You are too kind.
  2. Bravo!
 
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How stupid for a "smart" company. Im telling you, you heard it here first from me a long time ago. They better start producing cars the mainstream family wants to justify that outlandish PE ratio. The stock is nothing more than a trading play. Just like bitcoin.
Im not saying they will go out of business but sooner or later have to justify a PE ratio hundreds times higher than its peers.

BTW- as of right now it's down $18 a share, almost 8% ... so investors think it's stupid too. But since Tesla is a trading play who knows, as it is selling offer AI computers can be buying it up, to sell back to the public at higher prices.
The Model 3 and Y are pretty mainstream at this point. All these goofy claims he makes muddies it for the average buyer. This robocab nonsense just doubles down on the mediocre improvements FSD has had. I obviously like some of the cars, but I'd rather just distance myself from the company with all of this junk. I don't want to be associated with it no matter how good the regular products may be.
 
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