Tesla Model Y LR Electricity Costs vs. Gas

I had a rav4 Prime. It did not feel quality. In any way. I can't see how the eGMP twins could be worse.
Which trim did you have?

Is its trim level dependent?

I was looking at the XSE as 40 miles a day gets done most of what I need.
 
I am sure labwork has been done and your magnesium levels are normal?
8 seconds of vtac is probably near a good 20 beats. This is very uncool. I definitely think that if this is medicated, it is insufficient for the condition and you definitely should have the procedure. Just my opinion.
Ok I pulled up the results. I wasnt sure if it was seconds or beats. It was beats. I found it curious that they never tested my magnesium. I know all about that from my brother. The only reason I think its not related was I eat healthy and also take a daily vitamin that has a min of 100mg of it. I know you need roughly 400. But now that you commented if I saw this before maybe I would have told them to test for it. Curious, my brother who is a train wreck with his heart always told them to test for it because they never did but it always showed up ok. Even then he took supplements to bring it to the higher range.
Anyway, I pulled up my results. I LOVE the system where I am, I have almost all my test results and comments online.
(some are also on the Dr side that I cant see. What concerns me a little without taking the medication if the ablation goes well. The ablation will not take care of the PACs if I understand and why my Dr said if it was him he would try the med first.
Here is the holter result
· Normal sinus rhythm with a minimum heart rate of 51 and maximum heart
rate of 154. Patient had 24,616 PVCs and 917 couplets. There were
occasional PACs. There was one 8 beat run of nonsustained V. tach at 170
bpm.
 
Ok I pulled up the results. I wasnt sure if it was seconds or beats. It was beats. I found it curious that they never tested my magnesium. I know all about that from my brother. The only reason I think its not related was I eat healthy and also take a daily vitamin that has a min of 100mg of it. I know you need roughly 400. But now that you commented if I saw this before maybe I would have told them to test for it. Curious, my brother who is a train wreck with his heart always told them to test for it because they never did but it always showed up ok. Even then he took supplements to bring it to the higher range.
Anyway, I pulled up my results. I LOVE the system where I am, I have almost all my test results and comments online.
(some are also on the Dr side that I cant see. What concerns me a little without taking the medication if the ablation goes well. The ablation will not take care of the PACs if I understand and why my Dr said if it was him he would try the med first.
Here is the holter result
· Normal sinus rhythm with a minimum heart rate of 51 and maximum heart
rate of 154. Patient had 24,616 PVCs and 917 couplets. There were
occasional PACs. There was one 8 beat run of nonsustained V. tach at 170
bpm.
Yeah, that is a lot of pvcs. Some are normal. Most people don't notice them. Text book is 6 per minute max. The vtac even for 8 beats is not normal. I presume you've already had a clean heart cath, echo to verify ejection fraction and valve function, and maybe a stress test? I am surprised they didnt do a basic metabolic panel with magnesium. Magnesium is directly related to ventricular irritability. Occasional PACs arent a big deal. They didn't even provide you a count, so Id not stress too much on them for now. I am just curious what the underlying cause of all of the ventricular irritability is, here. I am a big fan of address the cause and not the symptom, if possible. You don't keep putting new tires on the car every 5k miles....you fix the alignment issue.
 
XSE. No not trim depending, its just a Toyota. Interiors are low quality. Chassis is meh. The engines and transmissions are g2g.

Bummer, on the surface it has promise.
Love the range.
 
Honestly, just get a real EV. Im much happier with full EV than my Prime. The awd is horrible in the prime. 80%+ hp goes to front tires.

I'm waiting for something reasonably priced, that charges quickly and has long range.... (like everyone else)

The new chevies show promise, but Im going to wager the 1K mile trip metrics will be disappointing.



I may just get a new civic EHV until the EV's come downmarket a bit.
 
Bummer, on the surface it has promise.
Love the range.
That has always been the Toyota approach - solid powertrain that is designed for long-term serviceability, good long-term support network but mediocre for everything else (from a performance and appeal standpoint).

I'm waiting for something reasonably priced, that charges quickly and has long range.... (like everyone else)

The new chevies show promise, but Im going to wager the 1K mile trip metrics will be disappointing.



I may just get a new civic EHV until the EV's come downmarket a bit.


The new 800V architectures are extremely promising when paired with the 350KW DC fast chargers. 10-80% in 20-25 min, which is perfect for a every 200 mile stop on a road trip. It pretty much matches (and sometimes beats) the Tesla V3 Superchargers. Even the older 150KW chargers, when paired with the 800V architecture cars, are not far behind.
 
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That has always been the Toyota approach - solid powertrain that is designed for long-term serviceability, good long-term support network but mediocre for everything else (from a performance and appeal standpoint).




The new 800V architectures are extremely promising when paired with the 350KW DC fast chargers. 10-80% in 20-25 min, which is perfect for a every 200 mile stop on a road trip. It pretty much matches (and sometimes beats) the Tesla V3 Superchargers. Even the older 150KW chargers, when paired with the 800V architecture cars, are not far behind.


I'm eager to see degradation tests on the latest wave of 800V Asian rides.

Based on Bjorns metrics the 800V architectures haven't really delivered what the brochures promised.
 
I'm eager to see degradation tests on the latest wave of 800V Asian rides.

Based on Bjorns metrics the 800V architectures haven't really delivered what the brochures promised.
Realistically, how often do you expect to fast charge? It should be a once-a-quarter thing at most, IMO. 95% of the time you would be charging at home or at your destination using a 6-11KW Level 2 charger. At least with the Tesla crowd, there still seems to be10-15% of range loss after a few years despite using a conservative charging approach.
 
Realistically, how often do you expect to fast charge? It should be a once-a-quarter thing at most, IMO. 95% of the time you would be charging at home or at your destination using a 6-11KW Level 2 charger. At least with the Tesla crowd, there still seems to be10-15% of range loss after a few years despite using a conservative charging approach.

6-ish times a month.

I have multiple reason to travel to So cal, and its about 950 miles there and back. I do this every month or at most two.

For in town stuff it can slow boat at night, but on these trips Ill be quick charging at least 2-3 times each direction.
 
The EV6 and IONIC 5 deliver in spades.
Sort of.

My routes get extremely hot in the summer. 100 and up.
These models lose control of cabin AC when fast charging, they are unable to divert cooling to the cabin during high speed charging.
The tesla octovalve better able to divide the cooling than whatever the asians are using.
 
6-ish times a month.

I have multiple reason to travel to So cal, and its about 950 miles there and back. I do this every month or at most two.

For in town stuff it can slow boat at night, but on these trips Ill be quick charging at least 2-3 times each direction.
Probably going to see more battery degradation with that approach vs someone who charges at home, but at most.....you're looking at a few percent per year. Probably not the best use for the vehicle, IMO, though.
 
While the progressives push everyone to EVs, don't they care, that many of their constituents live in apartments, or condos, and will have no easy way of charging them? It sounds like another thinly veiled way of pushing city dwellers to mass transit, which because of progressive interference in law enforcement, have become quite dangeous. Just look at what's happening in the NYC subways. It is like 1977 all over again, I rode them in those days and I was on edge 100% of the time. When I didn't ride the subways, I drove around NYC with bat under the seat of my '70 Ford or '75 Olds.
 
Probably going to see more battery degradation with that approach vs someone who charges at home, but at most.....you're looking at a few percent per year. Probably not the best use for the vehicle, IMO, though.

No doubt.

This is why a known entity is important for me and anything "new" isnt really workable until I see some degradation curves.
 
They still need oil, fluids, alignments, shock, wipers, brakes, radiators, and more....they will wear out suspensions & bushings like crazy.

People buying into some "no maintenance" fantasy need to put the pipe down.
 
No doubt.

This is why a known entity is important for me and anything "new" isnt really workable until I see some degradation curves.
The lifespan of EV's is probably akin to an iPad. Longer than an iPhone, but really a 5-10 year item. I don't see them being viable for longer road trips after year 5 given that folks are already seeing 10-12% range loss after a few years. I think a lot of people still forget that time kills batteries more so than mileage, so these 100K reviews after 2 years are not of much value. The issue is that these cars are only good for 150-200 miles between charges as-is (10-80% SOC usage) under "normal speeds," so a loss of 10-20% can make them go from being "ok" long trip cars to intolerable.

Tesla only warranties for 70% of capacity after 8/100K, after all.
 
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