Tesla locked owner out with child inside.

How?
I know people lock themselves out of cars, leaving a fob or key behind but I don't know of stories where the person (owner) is not at fault and the car is at fault like in this case.
I guess it happens just don't remember reading anything so I don't think your statement applies as far as "all the time" automobiles, through no fault of the owner lock kids in cars.
Cars malfunctioning don’t make stories as it happens often . Tesla makes an interesting read as there is anti Tesla, anti EV sentiment.

The owner was INSIDE car if you follow link. Either linked story was edited or OP misread it.
 
Cars malfunctioning don’t make stories as it happens often . Tesla makes an interesting read as there is anti Tesla, anti EV sentiment.

The owner was INSIDE car if you follow link. Either linked story was edited or OP misread it.
Good post, the OP is completely wrong and you are right.
My comment was based on the OP post, typically I will read links, but in this case I did not.

Your perception of being anti Tesla is not correct as far as assuming everybody is.

Tesla gets a lot of press because it’s an electric vehicle and the largest selling one.
Let’s not forget the CEO who has a very large mouth constantly makes comments on social media. In fact, the CEO has made himself squarely a social media sensation.
That is his doing.

I would have to even question if anybody in America knows another CEO of a large company.

This is all Tesla who creates their own publicity.
I am not at all against Tesla or electric vehicles. I am 100% against up to $11,000 per vehicle being given away taken out of my wallet.
However, I’m against a lot of things taken out of my wallet.

I think it’s more of a problem of pro Tesla people not understanding negative comments against Tesla that are well-deserved in many cases.

Just to be clear, even though I said it, Tesla throws themselves into the limelight almost on a daily basis by the CEO posting on social media. Sorry, but if you do that, then I don’t see how you could defend that company when other people make comments against that company. After all every day, Elon Musk is making a comment positive and negative about other people all is fair and love and war.
I don’t understand how people cannot understand that. Is Elon Musk the only one allowed to make comments on a daily basis, but nobody can make comments against him and when you do Tesla people those negative comments, think about that.
 
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If this happened to you, and you’ve clearly read the manual, how do you open the door from the outsideSee p

Again - this is about the Grandmother being OUTSIDE the car - and unable to manually open the door because the 12V battery died.

So, where is the manual door release on the outside?

If this happened to you, and you’ve clearly read the manual, how do you open the door from the outside?
See post #12.
Now is this a perfect solution? Nope. I doubt many owners know about this, and who has a 12v battery laying around?
Clearly these cars are different and are not for everyone.

Interestingly, I had a similar problem with our RX450h. The 12v battery was dead, so the key fob was useless. The process is to remove the metal key from the fob and unlock the door from the underside of the door handle. But the key would not turn the lock; I could not do it by hand. I grabbed a pair of pliers, wrapped the key in a clean cloth rag and was able to unlock the door.

I was very surprised.

Regarding the Tesla, I am curious why the low 12v battery warning did not work. Maybe it did but the owners ignored it? It wouldn't be the 1st time an owner disregarded warning messages.
 
Cars malfunctioning don’t make stories as it happens often . Tesla makes an interesting read as there is anti Tesla, anti EV sentiment.

The owner was INSIDE car if you follow link. Either linked story was edited or OP misread it.
The owner was outside of the car with the kid locked in. Where are you getting this? I would have linked the whole article but mods get upset with me when I do that. Now I see you are looking at the Wrong article. I did not quote from this article. The news station had reported on several incidents like this. So I guess that is why you brought up the wrong article.
 
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See post #12.
Now is this a perfect solution? Nope. I doubt many owners know about this, and who has a 12v battery laying around?
Clearly these cars are different and are not for everyone.

Interestingly, I had a similar problem with our RX450h. The 12v battery was dead, so the key fob was useless. The process is to remove the metal key from the fob and unlock the door from the underside of the door handle. But the key would not turn the lock; I could not do it by hand. I grabbed a pair of pliers, wrapped the key in a clean cloth rag and was able to unlock the door.

I was very surprised.

Regarding the Tesla, I am curious why the low 12v battery warning did not work. Maybe it did but the owners ignored it? It wouldn't be the 1st time an owner disregarded warning messages.
My point exactly.

You had a dead battery and a metal key.

That manufacturer, Lexus, gave you an option.

Tesla does not.
 
The owner was outside of the car with the kid locked in. Where are you getting this? I would have linked the whole article but mods get upset with me when I do that.
This is what you posted in your OP taking directly from the link you provided

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Once again, I think you're raising two issues, like the OP did.

If a toddler is locked inside a car, just break the effing window. What's the big deal? We have a world where strangers can break a window to rescue a dog that's trapped inside. Simple solution - do it for the kid like you would a dog.

With respect to Testa and their critics taking to social media to air their grievances - they're no different than influencers. They love to see their mug on the internet. I couldn't care less about the likes of Diane or grandma. For Diane, RTFM before operating the thing! For grandma, if you can't do it yourself, have someone break the window for you.

Is it really necessary that these simple incidents become so called news stories? The root cause for both is that these so called "victims" are stupid.

Scott
The 24/360 news nabobs need anything to fill pages or airtime. That's why it's "news".
 
Different article!
What do you want me to do? LOL
This is your OP with a news story about nothing that you’re posting about
Meaning, there’s nothing in the link about a grandmother who got locked a grandchild in a car and couldn’t get in
So if you provide the proper link in your post, they wouldn’t debate😁

Here you go again
Thread 'Tesla locked owner out with child inside.'
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/tesla-locked-owner-out-with-child-inside.384243/
 
@loneryder

Three pages of this thread could’ve been eliminated if you posted the right link. As everyone familiar with Tesla is posting photos of the emergency interior, unlock lever.

Here is the correct link and you are correct
A grandchild was locked inside a car while the grandmother was locked outside of the car and she had to call the fire department

Clearly, Tesla has to do something about back up power for the door lock, firefighters had to break the window and climb inside the car.

https://www.azfamily.com/2024/06/20/toddler-trapped-car-when-tesla-battery-dies-scottsdale/
 
Cars malfunctioning don’t make stories as it happens often . Tesla makes an interesting read as there is anti Tesla, anti EV sentiment.

The owner was INSIDE car if you follow link. Either linked story was edited or OP misread it.
The Op conflated two stories. The link was "trapped inside car" while the narrative in the post was clearly different.

That story, the one which we are discussing, is "grandma puts kid in car, walks around, car locks itself and won't unlock. Grandma calls 911. Fire department breaks window with Axe to rescue trapped child."

Scottsdale weather, in June, is generally above 100F. Can't leave a kid trapped in a car in that kind of heat.

Axe was the right call.

"Battery died with no warning" is an interesting detail in the story.

Some people clearly believe Tesla can do no wrong, and so, Grandma must have ignored the warning.

Of course, those people live in mild climates, they don't live in Arizona, with temperatures above 100F, and haven't seen batteries suddenly die from heat...or conversely, from extreme cold...
 
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No, you pull off the nosecone on the front bumper to access the jumper post and attach a jump box to it
Ah yes, kid trapped in the car at 100f, and you will jump start it. How does that work in Tesla?

If grandma only figured this out, everything would be fine.

No problem. Considering that at 100f ambient temperature, in the car, the temperature reaches 130f within 15min.
Now, at 104 body temperature, kids are especially susceptible to heatstroke and organ failure.
 
What do you want me to do? LOL
This is your OP with a news story about nothing that you’re posting about
Meaning, there’s nothing in the link about a grandmother who got locked a grandchild in a car and couldn’t get in
So if you provide the proper link in your post, they wouldn’t debate😁

Here you go again
Thread 'Tesla locked owner out with child inside.'
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/tesla-locked-owner-out-with-child-inside.384243/
I see. I didn't create that hyper-link but it's to a different article than the one I quoted from. Here's the correct one.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/new...esla-after-its-battery-discharged/ar-BB1oHcDt
 
@loneryder

Three pages of this thread could’ve been eliminated if you posted the right link. As everyone familiar with Tesla is posting photos of the emergency interior, unlock lever.

Here is the correct link and you are correct
A grandchild was locked inside a car while the grandmother was locked outside of the car and she had to call the fire department

Clearly, Tesla has to do something about back up power for the door lock, firefighters had to break the window and climb inside the car.

https://www.azfamily.com/2024/06/20/toddler-trapped-car-when-tesla-battery-dies-scottsdale/
But wait, I thought people should be excited about Tesla's "innovations?" You know, electric door handles, turning signal buttons on the steering wheel, etc, etc.
This is a known issue for YEARS. We discussed it here like 4-5yrs ago.
Clearly, they won;t do anything, bcs. cult.
 
@loneryder

Three pages of this thread could’ve been eliminated if you posted the right link. As everyone familiar with Tesla is posting photos of the emergency interior, unlock lever.

Here is the correct link and you are correct
A grandchild was locked inside a car while the grandmother was locked outside of the car and she had to call the fire department

Clearly, Tesla has to do something about back up power for the door lock, firefighters had to break the window and climb inside the car.

https://www.azfamily.com/2024/06/20/toddler-trapped-car-when-tesla-battery-dies-scottsdale/
I'm sorry I inconvenienced you Alarmguy but I didn't link the article. I copied and pasted that paragraph from the article. Astro14 gets upset with me if I post links so I tried to avoid that. I don't know how that hyper-link got into the paragraph and took you to the wrong article. I couldn't understand why people were posting pic of the interior latch.
 
Grannies wouldn't know that. I wonder how the Fire Dept got it open??
Fire fighters are not a bunch of old ladies. I know how they open the windows of a car parked in front of s hydrant they have to access with a hose. They use a fire axe on the windows and run that hose right through the Corinthian leather interior.
 
Fire fighters are not a bunch of old ladies. I know how they open the windows of a car parked in front of s hydrant they have to access with a hose. They use a fire axe on the windows and run that hose right through the Corinthian leather interior.
When it comes to someone trapped in a vehicle at 100f, there is not much thinking. The only thing that should go into it is how to break it without shattering glass all over the person trapped.
 
Firefighters are trained in all kinds of life saving situations. Breaking the window may have been the best solution or perhaps another. My elderly father fell and could not get up. He called me and I called 911; we both raced over. I kept a spare key in the garage, but he had used it and not returned it to its location. They told me breaking a window is a last resort because the shattering glass is very dangerous. The had a long pry bar to pop the door open.

They are amazing. My Dad was ashamed and embarrassed, they sat with him and told him jokes. Simply amazing.
 
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