Tesla Finally Has Its First Semi-Truck

[alarmguy]

No one is giving Tesla a pass. I swear this is the first brand in the world that we blame the manufacturer and not the operator for accidents. Welcome to opposite world I guess.

Well, let’s be fair. I’m reading claims emergency breaking and that didn’t brake in an emergency.
Also, if correct, emergency breaking cannot be overridden.
So we won’t know until the facts are out

 

[JeffKeryk]

Tesla FSD, Elon, heck anything Tesla is great clickbait fodder.
Any accident, especially fatalities, is tragic.

I wonder why we see so few, if any, contrary articles?

 

[goblin]

... I swear this is the first brand in the world that we blame the manufacturer and not the operator for accidents...

To be fair, this is also the first (and only brand I know of) whose owner was bragging about X million of miles driven so far and zero fatalities. So it might be a bit of a karma thing.

 

[alarmguy]

Tesla FSD, Elon, heck anything Tesla is great clickbait fodder.
Any accident, especially fatalities, is tragic.

I wonder why we see so few, if any, contrary articles?

I would suspect because mechanical, electronic, software problems will kill people and it’s more acceptable if human judgment kills people.

People would expect electronic means from a company advertising automated driving not to fail. I doubt very much people sign a waiver, informing them there will be failures in limited cases.

 

[oil pan 4]

My money is still on mass produced gta6 before mass-produced tesla semi trucks.

 

[JeffKeryk]

I would suspect because mechanical, electronic, software problems will kill people and it’s more acceptable if human judgment kills people.

People would expect electronic means from a company advertising automated driving not to fail. I doubt very much people sign a waiver, informing them there will be failures in limited cases.

There is no perfect system; there never will be. There are far too many variable permutations and combinations.
Regarding software, I am a major application veteran. SW only works well under defined conditions. Ditto people. The main difference, as I see it, is SW follows the rules it was coded for. People don't.

 

[goblin]

Just looking at the one picture available...

- The semi has no markings whatsoever - semi or trailer.

- The Tesla gigafactory building the semis is 30 miles away, on the same highway.

If this thing was some test mule, sky is the limit of how far idiocy can go.

 

[97prizm]

To be fair, this is also the first (and only brand I know of) whose owner was bragging about X million of miles driven so far and zero fatalities. So it might be a bit of a karma thing.

This. The Ceo of Volvo has said "we're striving for zero fatalities by 2035" but has never claimed zero fatalities. Nor have I seen any other CEOs claim their software and hardware is better than a human at driving. Musk stuck his foot in his mouth, it's time to pay up.

 

[97prizm]

There is no perfect system; there never will be. There are far too many variable permutations and combinations.
Regarding software, I am a major application veteran. SW only works well under defined conditions. Ditto people. The main difference, as I see it, is SW follows the rules it was coded for. People don't.

Following this logic then level 5 full autonomous driving isn't possible if software and hardware can't come up with every possible scenario.

 

[demarpaint]

This. The Ceo of Volvo has said "we're striving for zero fatalities by 2035" but has never claimed zero fatalities. Nor have I seen any other CEOs claim their software and hardware is better than a human at driving. Musk stuck his foot in his mouth, it's time to pay up.

Exactly, he stuck his foot in his mouth and pasted a big target on his back. When you're out there bragging about something being so great, you're putting a big bullseye on you're back, so expect people to take shots. Bottom line his system is far from perfect.