I beg to differ. The 17 cal will penetrate a bullet proof vest and do alot of damage. Glaser saftey slugs dont penetrate either but the damage is excessive. .22 magnums are a jacketed bullet, not lead like a .22 LR. They will penetrate and do alot of damage at 2000 fps, for comparison a .38 spl is moving at about 850 fps and a .357 magnum at about 1250 fps. With alot more mass to push on after impact. When I carry a 9mm with corbon 115 gr JHP, if I need maxium concealment, Ill carry a Makarov 9X18. But, I would not feel underarmed with a .22 magnum revolver, Ive killed more with my .22 magnum single action revolver then any other gun I own.
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Taurus guns are made in Brazil. They are ok for a cheap gun. The S&W and Ruger revolvers are not that much more expensive and they are much better.
A S&W mdl 10 in 38 spl would be a far better choice for a self defence gun. They are very common, cheap, and of very good quality. The 38spl in a k-frame (S&W designation for 'medium frame') would have very mild recoil and would be very easy for a woman to use.
A S&W mdl 10 in 38 spl would be a far better choice for a self defence gun. They are very common, cheap, and of very good quality. The 38spl in a k-frame (S&W designation for 'medium frame') would have very mild recoil and would be very easy for a woman to use.
Panzerman,
Either cartridge you mentioned is good for me also. When it comes to a CCW for defense I'll take any cartridge over throwing rocks! The 22 magnum bullet is always welcome and I still feel the 17 can be a good substitute if one wants to have one is a snubby form. The 22 LR's are only good defense rounds if you use "stinger" or perhaps "viper's"
Durango
Either cartridge you mentioned is good for me also. When it comes to a CCW for defense I'll take any cartridge over throwing rocks! The 22 magnum bullet is always welcome and I still feel the 17 can be a good substitute if one wants to have one is a snubby form. The 22 LR's are only good defense rounds if you use "stinger" or perhaps "viper's"
Durango
milwaukee,
No I do not have a CCW license in L.A.! I come from a long line of police officers so if anything bad like a riot happens I can always be deputised. Besides in earthquake and riot country the police will be too busy to care.
Regarding calibers I only carry if I went hiking.
Durango
No I do not have a CCW license in L.A.! I come from a long line of police officers so if anything bad like a riot happens I can always be deputised. Besides in earthquake and riot country the police will be too busy to care.
Regarding calibers I only carry if I went hiking.
Durango
If you like tinkering with guns, get a Taurus. I have yet to have one that did not need some tinkering to get it to fire, and it is usually something inane like a burr. My current snubby's cylinder latch would not engage properly because it was hanging up on a burr. When I pulled the trigger double action or cocked the hammer manually, it would randomly decide to continue rotating past the next chamber, and stop halfway between chambers. Now it is getting light primer strikes so I have ordered a new hammer spring while keeping my fingers crossed.
In short, you can get a good, used Smith or Ruger for just a little more than the price of a new Taurus. Do yourself a favor and get a Smith or Ruger.
In short, you can get a good, used Smith or Ruger for just a little more than the price of a new Taurus. Do yourself a favor and get a Smith or Ruger.
Milwaukee,
My cousins don't lie!
Durango
My cousins don't lie!
Durango
lasmacgod,
Your condition can happen to any revolver wether Taurus or a Smith. Regardless it requires a repait. Take it to a gun smith right away.
Durango
Durango,
The example I gave is of my current Taurus. I have had two others before, and all had problems either straight out of the box or shortly thereafter. I have not found them to be reliable enough to trust my life with, and I sure wouldn't trust my wife's life with one.
I appreciate your concern, but a gunsmith is not yet needed. Gunsmiths are for gun owners like mechanics are for car owners. Different people have different comfort/experience levels, and they need to recognize and respect those levels. I know my exact limitations, and do not stray beyond them.
The example I gave is of my current Taurus. I have had two others before, and all had problems either straight out of the box or shortly thereafter. I have not found them to be reliable enough to trust my life with, and I sure wouldn't trust my wife's life with one.
I appreciate your concern, but a gunsmith is not yet needed. Gunsmiths are for gun owners like mechanics are for car owners. Different people have different comfort/experience levels, and they need to recognize and respect those levels. I know my exact limitations, and do not stray beyond them.
Captain Howdy,
Actually, for the price of a new pistol, buy a bunch of ammo for your nine and take her to the range. With a little practice, I can't imagine her not being able to handle it with enough proficiency. It would also be a great idea for her to enroll in a basic handgun training class at the local range if it is offered. They usually run anywhere from $50 to $125, and are invaluable for training new shooters.
Otherwise, the best thing you can do is for you and your wife to visit your local range(s) and rent different pistols to shoot. I do not know what price range you want to be in, but to give you a starting point I have found that most women I have taught to shoot absolutely loved the Glock 19. (For the record, I respect Glocks a great deal -- they are very reliable pistols. That, however, does not mean I have to like them!) As much I hate to recommend anything smaller than a 9mm or .38 for self-defense, a .22 mag is a viable option. A .22 mag round that hits its target does more good than a 9mm that whizzes past the target. The .22 rimfires are actually capable of producing a great deal of damage. They penetrate quite well, and have a wonderful tendency to ricochet off hard objects like bone. A .22 in the human body may change directions 2 or 3 times before coming to a stop or exiting.
Another option to consider is a shotgun. A little pump .410 or possibly a 20 gauge is easy to hit with and control. The shotgun also lends itself best to home defense.
Just some options for you. If you have already considered any of them, please disregard. If not, I hope it helps!
Actually, for the price of a new pistol, buy a bunch of ammo for your nine and take her to the range. With a little practice, I can't imagine her not being able to handle it with enough proficiency. It would also be a great idea for her to enroll in a basic handgun training class at the local range if it is offered. They usually run anywhere from $50 to $125, and are invaluable for training new shooters.
Otherwise, the best thing you can do is for you and your wife to visit your local range(s) and rent different pistols to shoot. I do not know what price range you want to be in, but to give you a starting point I have found that most women I have taught to shoot absolutely loved the Glock 19. (For the record, I respect Glocks a great deal -- they are very reliable pistols. That, however, does not mean I have to like them!) As much I hate to recommend anything smaller than a 9mm or .38 for self-defense, a .22 mag is a viable option. A .22 mag round that hits its target does more good than a 9mm that whizzes past the target. The .22 rimfires are actually capable of producing a great deal of damage. They penetrate quite well, and have a wonderful tendency to ricochet off hard objects like bone. A .22 in the human body may change directions 2 or 3 times before coming to a stop or exiting.
Another option to consider is a shotgun. A little pump .410 or possibly a 20 gauge is easy to hit with and control. The shotgun also lends itself best to home defense.
Just some options for you. If you have already considered any of them, please disregard. If not, I hope it helps!
lasmacgod,
I'm sorry you Taurus's have not been up to specs. :-( I also remember some of my Smiths have been bad too and was sent back to the S & W right away! It just goes to show everyone that any brand of pistol can make it past quality control.
Take care and everyone have a good 4th of July.
Durango
I'm sorry you Taurus's have not been up to specs. :-( I also remember some of my Smiths have been bad too and was sent back to the S & W right away! It just goes to show everyone that any brand of pistol can make it past quality control.
Take care and everyone have a good 4th of July.
Durango
My brother owns the neatest 22lr revolver I have ever seen. It is a 9 shot revolver of stainless steel and he just loves that one as you can shoot all day long for not much money.
She may be afraid of the recoil of a larger bore gun. Take her to a range that rents guns and let her try a .32 or say a 9mm.
There's a lot of crackheads out there. A bunch of .22 rounds in less than vital areas, and they take the gun away from a lady.
There's a lot of crackheads out there. A bunch of .22 rounds in less than vital areas, and they take the gun away from a lady.
Here is the Taurus I bought for my wife,.38 Spl Ultra Lite. I have had no issues with it, but if I were to do it over I would have bought her the Lady Smith I was looking at first. I have had some timing issues with some Taurus revolvers I owned in the past.
Nice! How's the trigger pull?
Is that titanium...? Perfect for home defense...the pearl and luster may make theives ewe and ahh while holding still to be shoot in the knee
The trigger pull is a little heavy for the wife in Double Action, and just about right in Single Action. The action is smooth and crisp with no take up, much like the actions on my S&W's...
No, it's not the Total Titanium model, it's their "Ultralite Alloy". Personally I would have never gone for the pearl and gold accents, but while researching on-line the wife saw it and that is the one she wanted. I had to special order it and that caused me some embarrassment at the gun shop.
Looks like Taurus has done their marketing research well. Not sure about their manufacturing though.
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