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Originally Posted By: eljefino
Is there a sticker on the inside of your door frame kinda by the driver's shoulder belt loop saying not to make it into an ambulance? My 95 had one of those.

The bar codes are, IIRC, an internal ford thing and not federally required.


The barcode is internal, but I would bet that truck left the factory with one. Someone else came along and decided to change it; why they changed it is the mystery.

It could also be a flood vehicle someone tried to cover up at one point. That can leave little to no evidence unless you really start tearing things apart.
 
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
whatever ranger whatever. i am in no way being ridiculous. i dont understand why the sticker would be replaced. and why would everything be right but the weight ratings.... that doesn't make sense to me. i would honestly prefer you not comment on the thread if you cannot be friendly.


I ran your VIN through our parts lookup, GWVR is actually 6250. That sticker can be ordered through aftermarket channels with whatever information the person wants if the vehicle has been in an accident.
 
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ford said it was 6450 but im not sure it means anything at this point. another odd thing the cab doesn't have the metal tag on the firewall. the metal insides of the fender also have some yellow thick sticky stuff on it and underneath there is no paint. but the cab is painted all around and the paint all matches. under the dash isnt rusty or anything. it has no obvious signs of being a flood vehicle but that doesn't mean much. kinda odd .
 
I talked to Ford before too, and they told me that my 7.3 powerstroke didn't need its oil pressure relief valve, and also gave me the wrong instructions on how to assemble it. I wouldn't put too much faith in what they have to say.

Like others have told you, they just want to get you off the phone (or computer).
 
so my truck with single cab 5.0 3.08 has a max gcwr of 9000? and can tow 4700 if it was an auto ? but the manual can only do 6450 and 2,200 lbs towing? ford really did under rate them i pulled my dads jeep last week and the truck hardly even knew it
 
Yes, GCWR of the 5.0 manual with 3.08 is 6450 per that document. It would be rated higher if an auto trans.

note on the other sections it verifies an HD suspension/payload pkg which takes the capability over a ton, though it's no 1-ton (350) axle and suspension.
 
that makes sense but the guy i work with has a 94 f150 long bed reg cab with the e4od and the 351 v8 and his gvwr on his tag is 6250 . is there a difference between the tag on his reading gvwr and the info for my truck reading gcwr? i suppose we have established that my gvwr cannot be 8650
 
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
that makes sense but the guy i work with has a 94 f150 long bed reg cab with the e4od and the 351 v8 and his gvwr on his tag is 6250 . is there a difference between the tag on his reading gvwr and the info for my truck reading gcwr? i suppose we have established that my gvwr cannot be 8650


You need to look at BOTH pages he posted. The first lists GVWR, the second GCWR and towing capacity. You'll notice the 2nd set of numbers is much higher than the first. Which is the way it should be. If his GVWR is 6,250, then his GCWR is obviously much higher.
 
NH registrations show GVW on them,its part of how they charge the fee (that and original MSRP sticker).That is a number that cannot be changed.Maybe every state should do that.
 
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
i just noticed that the barcode is not there. but that doesn't give you a reason to further be insulting. but even though the barcode isnt there the fact still remains that the rest of the info is right. vin and axle ratio vin its all right and ford also did clarify the gvwr on the tag is correct.


He's not being insulting IMHO, he's simply trying to point out that by being adamant that the sticker is "right", you are being ridiculous. Trying to explain away the inconsistencies whilst being unwilling to entertain the idea that the sticker is a reproduction or forgery due to the fact that the information it contains makes no sense for a 1/2 ton truck.

This is what we were talking about in the other thread.
 
Here's a scenario I can quickly think of for fudging the #s and getting a fake sticker.

I bought a boat/camper/whatever and found out my truck's GVW can't carry it legally (ie: I'm overloaded). Easier to get a fake sticker made up (or make one myself) and put it on there so if I ever get caught it looks legit.

I often haul heavy loads but am too cheap to buy the F2/350. Sticker please.

Those were 2 off the top of my head that could explain it. I'm sure there are more reasons out there.
 
Two things I have noticed in this thread and from working with Ford for as long as I have.

1. That is not a factory door sticker, it looks like it has been modified. I have never seen a F150 on that vintage with that high of a GVW rating. If you look closer at the numbers, it looks like it has been modified. One of my old timer techs looked at your sticker pic and said that is off of a F250-F350, not a F150.

2. Ford Customer Service is not always correct. Ford has core charges on bumper covers, headlights, and taillights on newer models. We had a new Company owned Explorer that got a new one and the body shop tossed the old bumper in the round file cabinet. I got a call from Customer Service asking why there was a core charge, my answer was "Not sure, ask your parts people, they put them on there." So obviously there is a massive lack of communication within the Company in regards to Customer Service, Parts Supply, Marketing, and Engineering.
 
Is my keyboard typing in Spanish?
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
i just noticed that the barcode is not there. but that doesn't give you a reason to further be insulting. but even though the barcode isnt there the fact still remains that the rest of the info is right. vin and axle ratio vin its all right and ford also did clarify the gvwr on the tag is correct.


He's not being insulting IMHO, he's simply trying to point out that by being adamant that the sticker is "right", you are being ridiculous. Trying to explain away the inconsistencies whilst being unwilling to entertain the idea that the sticker is a reproduction or forgery due to the fact that the information it contains makes no sense for a 1/2 ton truck.

This is what we were talking about in the other thread.


Overkill is my keyboard typing in Spanish? I could have sworn I said I agree its wrong numerous times!! I am relaying what Ford had said but in know way think the door sticker is right. If its not clear that I said that already. I hope it is now. You all keep trying to argue with me when I'm agreeing that its wrong. Question is why is it wrong. Not is it. WHY!!! So I am no being ridiculous you guys are misunderstanding
 
Is my keyboard typing in Spanish?
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
i just noticed that the barcode is not there. but that doesn't give you a reason to further be insulting. but even though the barcode isnt there the fact still remains that the rest of the info is right. vin and axle ratio vin its all right and ford also did clarify the gvwr on the tag is correct.


He's not being insulting IMHO, he's simply trying to point out that by being adamant that the sticker is "right", you are being ridiculous. Trying to explain away the inconsistencies whilst being unwilling to entertain the idea that the sticker is a reproduction or forgery due to the fact that the information it contains makes no sense for a 1/2 ton truck.

This is what we were talking about in the other thread.


Overkill is my keyboard typing in Spanish? I could have sworn I said I agree its wrong numerous times!! I am relaying what Ford had said but in know way think the door sticker is right. If its not clear that I said that already. I hope it is now. You all keep trying to argue with me when I'm agreeing that its wrong. Question is why is it wrong. Not is it. WHY!!! So I am no being ridiculous you guys are misunderstanding
 
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal

2. Ford Customer Service is not always correct. Ford has core charges on bumper covers, headlights, and taillights on newer models. We had a new Company owned Explorer that got a new one and the body shop tossed the old bumper in the round file cabinet. I got a call from Customer Service asking why there was a core charge, my answer was "Not sure, ask your parts people, they put them on there." So obviously there is a massive lack of communication within the Company in regards to Customer Service, Parts Supply, Marketing, and Engineering.

Yep, their customer service can definitely be wrong.

I mentioned in the other thread I got a very wrong build sheet from them for my 2001 Ranger XL. They promptly and happily replied to my build sheet request, but gave me something that was completely and obviously wrong. Ironically all I wanted to know is if it had payload package #1 or #2, because it sat about 1" higher than my current truck and both have coil springs. Instead I found out it came with a non-existent trip computer, overhead console, Ranger EV spare tire, and other oddities. Nothing about the build sheet made any kind of remote sense. The truck was a 2001 model built in late 2000 during a mild update, so I guess it got lost in the mix.
 
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
Is my keyboard typing in Spanish?
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
i just noticed that the barcode is not there. but that doesn't give you a reason to further be insulting. but even though the barcode isnt there the fact still remains that the rest of the info is right. vin and axle ratio vin its all right and ford also did clarify the gvwr on the tag is correct.


He's not being insulting IMHO, he's simply trying to point out that by being adamant that the sticker is "right", you are being ridiculous. Trying to explain away the inconsistencies whilst being unwilling to entertain the idea that the sticker is a reproduction or forgery due to the fact that the information it contains makes no sense for a 1/2 ton truck.

This is what we were talking about in the other thread.


Overkill is my keyboard typing in Spanish? I could have sworn I said I agree its wrong numerous times!! I am relaying what Ford had said but in know way think the door sticker is right. If its not clear that I said that already. I hope it is now. You all keep trying to argue with me when I'm agreeing that its wrong. Question is why is it wrong. Not is it. WHY!!! So I am no being ridiculous you guys are misunderstanding


Spanish? Naw, I'd say Korean
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