Arguing over a trucks weight. Experts?
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Originally Posted by Pelican
Originally Posted by chrisf8657
I'm hoping you guys can add some sanity back to me. I am arguing with a master mechanic that the weight of my 1994 Chevy K1500, and all vehicles in general, when unloaded (no cargo) is the CURB WEIGHT, and that when fully loaded with cargo to it's maximum safe carrying limit is the GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT RATING. Everything I have ever read and taught was this.
He is arguing that the truck weighs 6500 pounds just sitting there with nothing in it, saying the GVWR is what it weighs, while I am arguing it weighs about ~4200 just sitting there. I have told him his number is based on the curb weight plus the load carrying capacity (1/2 ton) of the vehicle (GVWR), but he continues to argue with me. It seems like the only way I am going to be able to prove it is take it to a truck scale and have it weighed.
So...who is right - me or him?
You are ! The GVWR is the weight the truck can pull/carry including passengers and fuel
That's not quite right-the weight the truck can pull and carry is the Gross COMBINED Weight Rating (GCWR), which covers pulling a trailer, cargo, people, everything. The GVWR is the loaded truck's max total weight, no trailer. The '93 standard cab C3500 in my sig is just over 5K with nothing in it (except the cap), so 4200 for a K1500 seems a little low, but in the ballpark for curb weight.
Originally Posted by chrisf8657
I'm hoping you guys can add some sanity back to me. I am arguing with a master mechanic that the weight of my 1994 Chevy K1500, and all vehicles in general, when unloaded (no cargo) is the CURB WEIGHT, and that when fully loaded with cargo to it's maximum safe carrying limit is the GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT RATING. Everything I have ever read and taught was this.
He is arguing that the truck weighs 6500 pounds just sitting there with nothing in it, saying the GVWR is what it weighs, while I am arguing it weighs about ~4200 just sitting there. I have told him his number is based on the curb weight plus the load carrying capacity (1/2 ton) of the vehicle (GVWR), but he continues to argue with me. It seems like the only way I am going to be able to prove it is take it to a truck scale and have it weighed.
So...who is right - me or him?
You are ! The GVWR is the weight the truck can pull/carry including passengers and fuel
That's not quite right-the weight the truck can pull and carry is the Gross COMBINED Weight Rating (GCWR), which covers pulling a trailer, cargo, people, everything. The GVWR is the loaded truck's max total weight, no trailer. The '93 standard cab C3500 in my sig is just over 5K with nothing in it (except the cap), so 4200 for a K1500 seems a little low, but in the ballpark for curb weight.
Originally Posted by Linctex
Originally Posted by Oily_Thing
My dad's Ridgeline pickup weights 4600 lbs empty.
Wow, I would not have expected that.
My double cab short bed Tacoma that can seat 5 is around 4200ish wet, but without driver. GVWR is 5500lb.
What's really shocking is that my old single cab '02 F150 which could only seat 3 was around 4200lb as well.
But somehow the Tacoma feels a lot more solid and planted. The F150 was really twisty in the frame/body.
Originally Posted by Oily_Thing
My dad's Ridgeline pickup weights 4600 lbs empty.
Wow, I would not have expected that.
My double cab short bed Tacoma that can seat 5 is around 4200ish wet, but without driver. GVWR is 5500lb.
What's really shocking is that my old single cab '02 F150 which could only seat 3 was around 4200lb as well.
But somehow the Tacoma feels a lot more solid and planted. The F150 was really twisty in the frame/body.
I would not find a new mechanic over this if you like their work.
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Man that thing is light! At any rate you are correct. My 2002 2500HD is 5800 on the scales with me and full tank of gas. It's GVRW is 9200lbs.
Confuse him with GCWR, my truck"s is 16,000lbs. Have him figure out tongue weight.
Confuse him with GCWR, my truck"s is 16,000lbs. Have him figure out tongue weight.
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Time for a new mech, who knows what else he's got wrong.
Regardless of reason he has it wrong. I would go somewhere else.
Thanks guys.
Oh - Oilything/ Linctex and others:
Keep in the mind those pickups are newer and have a ton of stuff in them these old 94's don't have - it doesn't have any of the electronics or all the modern stuff, so it weighs a bit less.
Oh - Oilything/ Linctex and others:
Keep in the mind those pickups are newer and have a ton of stuff in them these old 94's don't have - it doesn't have any of the electronics or all the modern stuff, so it weighs a bit less.
Your correct mechanics fix vehicles they are not vehicle subject matter experts.
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