talk me out of a KIA STINGER

The idea of driving around with K I A (Killed In Action) emblazoned on a car, always bothered me.

Aside from the fact they make nothing I would want to buy.
 
Kia wasn't able to poach enough BMW guys to do everything else.
Nope. Second guy from M division left bcs. disagreements. He was suspension guy. Hyundai was fastest to get him. G70 IMO is super cool car with stick, but not sure about that engine.
 
Nope. Second guy from M division left bcs. disagreements. He was suspension guy. Hyundai was fastest to get him. G70 IMO is super cool car with stick, but not sure about that engine.
The G70 and Stinger utilize the same drivetrain and platform. My wife's sister had a G70 and loved it.
 
The G70 and Stinger utilize the same drivetrain and platform. My wife's sister had a G70 and loved it.
Yeah. I know they are same. G70 with that 2.0T and stick is excellent idea. But not sure what happens when you utilize BMW suspension and Hyundai engine. BMW for example honor warranty, and will prepare your car for track purposes. Other companies, expect Porsche don’t do that.
In G70 engine is not only positioned properly, but pushed back like it should be, behind front axle. Something Toyota/Lexus could learn.
 
With that weight distribution, RWD, suspension, I bet it is. I actually would not mind getting that car. But want to see long term engine reliability.
Actually, she bought the AWD. We live in Western Mass, and it's been great for mild weather and the hills we live on.
The Yokohamas run nice in the rain and light snow. Anything worse and she takes one of the F150's.
 
I looked at them, the local dealer only had AWD models with grand touring tires; with a top speed of a ridiculous 129 mph, I passed. Also, Stingers are now orphans so I suspect parts availability could be an issue.
 
I looked at them, the local dealer only had AWD models with grand touring tires; with a top speed of a ridiculous 129 mph, I passed. Also, Stingers are now orphans so I suspect parts availability could be an issue.
True. Hyundai won’t stay with these cars. I just checked AutoTrader, only 9 with stick available.
 
I don’t believe that Stingers were offered with a manual- the only transmission was an 8 speed automatic.
 
And it can do big boy stuff:
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Macan is great and all, but that's from a different planet compared to a performance sedan. These days I'd rather have something more like the Macan, but me a couple of years ago would laugh off a crossover over any other type of vehicle. To be honest I slightly hate myself for being ok with crossovers, but with hatchbacks dying off it's the next frontier for performance versions of regular cars. I definitely find fast versions of regular vehicles to be vastly superior to live with over something really special since it was designed to work as a daily before the power was thrown at it.

Macan is a great choice if it's the type of vehicle you want.
 
Macan is great and all, but that's from a different planet compared to a performance sedan. These days I'd rather have something more like the Macan, but me a couple of years ago would laugh off a crossover over any other type of vehicle. To be honest I slightly hate myself for being ok with crossovers, but with hatchbacks dying off it's the next frontier for performance versions of regular cars. I definitely find fast versions of regular vehicles to be vastly superior to live with over something really special since it was designed to work as a daily before the power was thrown at it.

Macan is a great choice if it's the type of vehicle you want.
BMW X3M > Macan. The Macan is front heavy as all getout, and even the fastest ones are total dogs. Then you have the Porsche tax. Just a flat out zero-appeal vehicle. X3M and Comp are just insanely better in every way.
 
my full experience with the model..
My Buddies little bro, a couple months before he got out of the Army sold off my old Neon, and bought a GR86.
within 6 months of getting out, he traded the 86 for a Stinger.
within 6 months he's complaining about it being too low and his back hurting, but AFAIK he's still driving it...

granted the job he got post Army has him out of town more than not( something with RR safety), and the stinger does a lot of sitting. He's out of town so much the Apt he got made ZERO financial sense (2 BR $1300/mo and he's out of town 2-3 weeks a month), so after his initial lease was up, moved back in with big brother and hubby...( he lived with them before he enlisted)
 
BMW X3M > Macan. The Macan is front heavy as all getout, and even the fastest ones are total dogs. Then you have the Porsche tax. Just a flat out zero-appeal vehicle. X3M and Comp are just insanely better in every way.
I just don’t like BMW. I don’t like how they look and I hate the interior design.
 
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