Taking my CHL class Saturday!

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After our house being burglarized 11 times, two home-invasion robberies (loooong stories, but exciting), and a rash of local crime in our area, it's time to get my CHL class completed and then the long waiting period for background checks/etc. I think it's my duty as an American to protect my family from harm and help protect others as well.

Few more incidents recently that I may not have posted in O/T-- DUI crash in front of my house/driveway, guy started smashing in the face of the girl that hit him...I had to draw to get him off of her, police Sergeant pulls up and takes over...thanks me for the help (no barking order, etc.).

Story B-- a friend of mine is at Wal-Mart and apparently two burglars had made their way to the store after committing burglaries, and had been hiding out in the section where she was shopping. Police come in and surround them, easily could have been a hostage situation. The bad guys finally surrender at gunpoint, but she was feet from them and they could have grabbed her...scary!

Story C-- two college girls were carjacked in front of God and everyone at another Wal-Mart nearby at gunpoint, they were screaming and trying to get away while the bad guys were threatening them at gunpoint. The bad guys got the car, but noone stepped up to help or come to their aide or screaming. Security was a joke.

Story D (and probably the worst)-- the janitor's son from my wife's school where she teaches was shot and killed last week after being followed out of a billiard club for "looking at a girl"....he was shot in the back 4 times while running for his life, trying to get home & away from the situation.


Disclaimer--- I never want the opportunity to shoot someone (uh...again), but if someone else has made the choice that they are going to commit crimes and harm/threaten death against my family or another party, you'll bet that I won't be a startled bystander or a dead victim, or worse-- a widower.
 
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Someone taking there safety into there own hands?!?!?!?!
Good for you!

Read up on your local laws. If you have not allready, get some training, Join the NRA, join a local gun forum, get to the range, ect . . . .
 
NRA joined last month, I visit several ranges (indoor & outdoor) at least 2x per month, when I can find ammo for the Glock.
 
Yeah, no offence, Solo, but putting up with THIS number of incidents is dumb. You've gotten plenty of evidence that you've made a mistake with where you moved, cut your losses and get out of there.

Getting a gun to protect yourself is just increasing the risk that you will get shot, or be in a situation where you kill someone. Sorry bud, but you're NOT going to come out the hero.

Despite your best intentions, you just drmatically increased your chances of ending up in a body bag, or in jail.

Good luck!!!
 
If I lived in West Orleans, oops, I mean Houston, I would pack my things and find a new place to call home. Not what you want to hear but it is only going to get worse.
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy
Getting a gun to protect yourself is just increasing the risk that you will get shot, or be in a situation where you kill someone. Sorry bud, but you're NOT going to come out the hero.

Despite your best intentions, you just drmatically increased your chances of ending up in a body bag, or in jail.


Typical anti gunner attitude. It is your duty to protect yourself and family, even if moving to a better area is not an option. Good job solo. Good choice of firearm also. I would be interested in hearing about the home invasions if you want to elaborate.
 
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Originally Posted By: addyguy
Yeah, no offence, Solo, but putting up with THIS number of incidents is dumb. You've gotten plenty of evidence that you've made a mistake with where you moved, cut your losses and get out of there.

Getting a gun to protect yourself is just increasing the risk that you will get shot, or be in a situation where you kill someone. Sorry bud, but you're NOT going to come out the hero.

Despite your best intentions, you just drmatically increased your chances of ending up in a body bag, or in jail.

Good luck!!!
??????????????? what??????
 
Neighborhood is not bad, just lots of traffic through there from nearby questionable neighborhoods. And a major bus stop on the corner. Lots of characters. That, we "just" moved in about 11 months ago and it attracted a lot of attention. Beautiful 1800sqft house on 11000sqft, big yards, rent price kinda high. Due for renewal next month, but we are too broke to move and we are due with our 2nd child this month.

I used to have the same attitude when I lived in California...now I've seen the other side, and am glad I moved to Texas. You don't know until you've lived it, and have legal right to protect yourself and family. 2nd Amendment - use it, or lose it.
 
I'd rather protect myself and my family/friends. Smart to buy a gun and learn how to use it.

Not everyone can just pack up and move.
I live in realty and not some 'ideal' world.

Obviously, the gov't isn't doing anything to protect us.
My town has 36,000 residents, covers 64 square miles, and has 60 police officers. Divide 60 among the shifts/days off/residents/..... and you'll understand that there is noone nearby to protect us.

Most that defend themselves usually only have to draw. I've had my self defense revolver for 15 years. The 'sight of it' will stop crime. Never seen a phone calling 911 do that.

Addyguy, wake up! Almost as dumb as saying "airbags and seatbelts cause car accidents". You'll wake up when someone close to you is robbed, murdered, or raped, while you couldn't do anything to stop it. Use your cell phone, call 911, lucky if call goes through and not put on hold, sit back and wait for bigbrother to pull out of DonutHeaven drivethru to come defend you. I'll prefer my .357.
 
Solo,
I recommend you do some soul searching and make absolute sure that when that time comes you will be able to kill someone. Although the sight of a weapon can diffuse a situation it also escalates it to a higher level of life and death. Plenty of people are killed because they hesitate when it is time to perform. It's not something you can physically practice for, it is a mental preparedness. I'm in no way trying to discourage you, just make sure you have thought about this past the noble idea of self preservation.
 
I'd never want to shoot someone, but me or them I choose my life every time.

Hanguns are the hardest to master of all the firearms. If you have the time try sport shooting like USPSA or IDPA in addition to standard range time.

Any trigger time is good trigger time.
 
I have drawn my gun on two occasions in the past few months, the first was a guy who decided he was going to park in my driveway, case the house, and then try to open several windows and my front door. I had my gun between his eyes as he entered my office window. He fell back outside the window onto the hood of his car, and I engaged him at gunpoint outside (I was afraid he was going for a gun inside the car), he took off...stolen plates, never caught the guy. That was the second robbery attempt.

The first time was Nov. 3 when three guys raided my house, there is a long post on this. Caught on video, I scare them off with my phone as I called 911 (they thought it was a gun), they returned 5 minutes later with their guns and tried to kill me just as the police arrived, short pursuit, capture, etc. All but one went free after 1 day in jail because "they did not actually pull the trigger"...the other had a felony warrant in another county and was extradited. After that, we started to have a lot of break-ins when we were not home.



Scratch that, I also had to "brandish" my small backup pistol one day when I was in my driveway working on my car...."Hey buddy got a light?" "No." "How bout a cigarette?" "No. Get off of my driveway." "How bout some money? Give me your wallet dude!" *show pistol* no money in pocket....guy leaves in a hurry.


This isn't my first rodeo, and it's definitely different when you face this nearly on a daily basis. Like I said, my opinions were 180-degrees different before moving to Houston.
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy
Yeah, no offence, Solo, but putting up with THIS number of incidents is dumb. You've gotten plenty of evidence that you've made a mistake with where you moved, cut your losses and get out of there.

Getting a gun to protect yourself is just increasing the risk that you will get shot, or be in a situation where you kill someone. Sorry bud, but you're NOT going to come out the hero.

Despite your best intentions, you just drmatically increased your chances of ending up in a body bag, or in jail.

Good luck!!!


Is this the general feeling of most canadians? You would be great pals with Sarah Brady. Even your Own Jennifer Granholm feels differently about CPLs.
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy


Getting a gun to protect yourself is just increasing the risk that you will get shot, or be in a situation where you kill someone. Sorry bud, but you're NOT going to come out the hero.

Despite your best intentions, you just drmatically increased your chances of ending up in a body bag, or in jail.

Good luck!!!


Is this the old "you'll be killed with your own gun!" canard?

Let me point you to - Rules for Gunfight

10. Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.
 
I'm not entirely anti-gun. I agree, I'd rather see someone stand-up for themself if law enforcement doesn't do it.

I don't have facts in front of me, but there are tons of studies that show that 'arming' yourself in ANY way greatly increases the chances that your weapon, or a counter weapon, will be used against you.

I'm not going to get into the whole 'Second Amendment' argument here, but it has been pointed out that the original purpose of that amendment was to protect the american country from invasion by foriegn enemies, NOT to justify every Tom, ****, and Harry to carry a personal handgun. You all KNOW that is a complete twisting of the original clause.

Solo,

Have fun being a 'gun slinger' in the Wild, Wild West. Some of us would move to a safer part of town, to guarantee our family is safe, rather than leave it to chance that we are a better shot than the next guy who comes in your yard....but each to their own...
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy


I'm not going to get into the whole 'Second Amendment' argument here, but it has been pointed out that the original purpose of that amendment was to protect the american country from invasion by foriegn enemies


The 2nd amendment's purpose is to protect the American citizenry from "domestic" enemies; ie a repressive government.

And apparently you missed the part where solo said he can not afford to move at this time?

Quit being an a$$hole.

That's my $.02
 
Yeah, I probably shouldn't comment on 2nd amendment issues w/o know enough about it.

I just think with this amount of trouble he's seeing, moving at any cost would be an option.

BTW, Drew, I'm NOT the only one who thinks he is nuts for not moving, but you zero in on my comments. Interesting....

And okay, fine, I'm on the loosing end of this argument - what is Solo does have to kill someone, but the 'law' doesn't see it as self defence, and he goes to jail or death row? What happens to his fmaily he's 'protecting' then?

That's another side to this issue.....
 
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