Syntec 0-30 is "Made in Germany"...

Patman · Feb 13, 2003

I better not give you my home address, you'll be breaking into my house to steal the german 0w30 from my oil shrine!

Now I just need to find the specs on this oil somehow.

tenderloin · Feb 13, 2003

German website

click here

edit to fix long URL

[ February 14, 2003, 10:09 AM: Message edited by: Patman ]

Greg · Feb 13, 2003

quote:

Is this a communication you got from Castrol?

yes

Dr. T · Feb 13, 2003

Guys, get your new diapers ready :0 (kidding). After emailing Castrol to get info. on this stuff I got this reply: “We don’t have information on oils sold outside of N.A.”. After writing a nasty reply back saying I found this at a local blah, blah, blah, I got the following reply today:

Well, I was certainly out of the loop on this one! I apologize for the
misinformation, and here are the facts.

Yes, the Syntec 0W-30 does come from Germany. As it already existed there,
we decided to take advantage of that production source. Color differences are common and are usually due to different additive sources, but this should not be a cause for concern. The base stock of the 0W-30 oil is PAO. In this unique low temperature application, it was found that PAO was the best
way to go.

As to the Typical Inspection Data, that appears below. If you do not
receive it in a legible chart format, please advise and I will either mail or fax it if you will give us that number.

Once again, thank you for writing and for allowing me to clarify the issue,
for both of us. Your interest in Castrol products is greatly appreciated.

Lynn Hansen

Reference: 130544

G-MAN · Feb 13, 2003

quote:

Originally posted by Dr. T:
Guys, get your new diapers ready :0 (kidding). After emailing Castrol to get info. on this stuff I got this reply: “We don’t have information on oils sold outside of N.A.”. After writing a nasty reply back saying I found this at a local blah, blah, blah, I got the following reply today:

Well, I was certainly out of the loop on this one! I apologize for the
misinformation, and here are the facts.

Yes, the Syntec 0W-30 does come from Germany. As it already existed there,
we decided to take advantage of that production source. Color differences are common and are usually due to different additive sources, but this should not be a cause for concern. The base stock of the 0W-30 oil is PAO. In this unique low temperature application, it was found that PAO was the best
way to go.

As to the Typical Inspection Data, that appears below. If you do not
receive it in a legible chart format, please advise and I will either mail or fax it if you will give us that number.

Once again, thank you for writing and for allowing me to clarify the issue,
for both of us. Your interest in Castrol products is greatly appreciated.

Lynn Hansen

Reference: 130544

Did they give you any specs?

VI, pour point, CCV, etc. Enquiring minds want to know!

Dr. T · Feb 13, 2003

CASTROL SYNTEC 0W-30 SL/CF

Specific Gravity, 60F 0.847

Pounds per Gallon 7.05

Viscosity Index 175

Viscosity, cSt 40C 54

Viscosity, cSt 100C 10.0

Cranking Viscosity, cP max
Pumping Viscosity, cP max 60,000 {-40}

HTHS cP @150C 2.95

Flash Point 437 {225}

Fire Point >450 {232}

Pour Point -42

Zinc % wt 0.11

Phosphorus % wt 0.09

G-MAN · Feb 13, 2003

quote:

Originally posted by Dr. T:
CASTROL SYNTEC 0W-30 SL/CF

Specific Gravity, 60F 0.847

Pounds per Gallon 7.05

Viscosity Index 175

Viscosity, cSt 40C 54

Viscosity, cSt 100C 10.0

Cranking Viscosity, cP max
Pumping Viscosity, cP max 60,000 {-40}

HTHS cP @150C 2.95

Flash Point 437 {225}

Fire Point >450 {232}

Pour Point -42

Zinc % wt 0.11

Phosphorus % wt 0.09

I'd be willing to be these are the specs for the "made in the USA" 0w30. The HTHS is the giveaway. If this oil is rated A3, it has to have an HTHS >3.5.

Patman · Feb 13, 2003

Those specs are for the USA stuff for sure, I've had those specs for months now.

The German stuff has to be way better in many areas, such as the forementioned HTHS for sure.

G-MAN · Feb 13, 2003

quote:

Originally posted by Patman:
Those specs are for the USA stuff for sure, I've had those specs for months now.

The German stuff has to be way better in many areas, such as the forementioned HTHS for sure.

Yeah, and the pour point is another giveaway. -42 is a pretty good Group III pour point, but it sucks for PAO. I'd expect this oil to have a pour point somewhere around -54 at least.

Dr. T · Feb 13, 2003

I agree. I thought about that last night after studying the specs...ACEA A1...that's the real giveaway...the specs are from 6/02.

Patman · Feb 14, 2003

OK, who speaks German here?

Could you visit the German Castrol site:

http://www.castrol.de/

..and see if there are any technical specs on the 0w30 there. The SLX 0w30 is probably it. Perhaps you could email the guys there if there is no technical data sheet on that page?

OneQuartLow · Feb 14, 2003

I think you can just send them email in whatever language. The last few responses I've received from them sounded like I was talking to C3PO.

Greg · Feb 15, 2003

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=de_en&url=http://www.castrol.de/

Patman · Feb 15, 2003

Thanks Greg! I sent them an email now, so hopefully whoever reads it can speak English, or at least forward it on to someone that does. And I hope their tech reps are better than the North American ones, who know very little about oil (I found this out on Friday when I phoned Castrol to get more info on this oil and the person on the other end of the phone didn't sound like she knew the difference between motor oil and vegetable oil)

Dr. T · Feb 15, 2003

Patman, try:

click here

edit-fix long URL

[ February 15, 2003, 07:54 PM: Message edited by: Patman ]

SPITMAN · Feb 15, 2003

After a visit to the German Castrol site, I wouldn't mind getting my hands on some Formula RS 0W-40 to run year-round in my 1.8T.

Patman · Feb 15, 2003

quote:

Originally posted by OneQuartLow:
I think you can just send them email in whatever language. The last few responses I've received from them sounded like I was talking to C3PO.

Problem is I can't even read the website enough to know where to find out how to contact them!

Dr. T · Feb 19, 2003

Just called a local VW dealer. They want $12/L for the Syntec 5-40...parts guy said it was from "the states" but couldn't elaborate any further.

Anyone know where else you could get this stuff other than the ridiculous stealer price?

Syntec 0-30 is "Made in Germany"...

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